Legal Snap?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

and by many that it is not legal, hmmmmmmmmmm!

I have a solution. Get your behind off the sideline and do it for yourself. Then tell us what your peers say and how you call the game. It is a lot easier to run your mouth at what should be done and you have never done it once. Because if you call the wrong thing unlike here, you might not go back or work that level you want again. This was a legal snap and you have not shown anything that suggests otherwise, but your typical complaining about things you are unwilling to do.

Peace

[bigjohn]

There are guys reading this and some have posted that think you are wrong, Mr Rutledge. They say the snap is not quick enough or immediate. That is not just my interpretation. I also have talked with officials that work games every Friday and some that have even done State Finals, that do not agree with you. So it is like I always say, the rules change every Friday night depending on the crew and there skill set and interprtations.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

There are guys reading this and some have posted that think you are wrong, Mr Rutledge. They say the snap is not quick enough or immediate. That is not just my interpretation. I also have talked with officials that work games every Friday and some that have even done State Finals, that do not agree with you. So it is like I always say, the rules change every Friday night depending on the crew and there skill set and interprtations.

So they think I am wrong? Good for them. My question is what levels do they work? What positions do they hold in their state, are they a clinician, an assignor or a rules interpreter? There are also people here that think you should call something without seeing it too, what does that prove? You are the one that started this and there are a lot of others that seem to agree that this is a legal snap. And again if you have never had to put your behind on the line to rule on these plays, I at least have respect for those that officiate. You are just a baby that wants to debate things your big behind is unwilling to do yourself. If you think the only rules discussions I have or others have is on this site, you have no idea. Or how much some of us go back and forth with interpretations and if we dispute we go to those higher up to get clarification. But when you are sitting in the cozy press box you would never know that.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by jrutledge

so they think i am wrong? Good for them. My question is what levels do they work? What positions do they hold in their state, are they a clinician, an assignor or a rules interpreter? There are also people here that think you should call something without seeing it too, what does that prove? You are the one that started this and there are a lot of others that seem to agree that this is a legal snap. And again if you have never had to put your behind on the line to rule on these plays, i at least have respect for those that officiate. You are just a baby that wants to debate things your big behind is unwilling to do yourself. If you think the only rules discussions i have or others have is on this site, you have no idea. Or how much some of us go back and forth with interpretations and if we dispute we go to those higher up to get clarification. But when you are sitting in the cozy press box you would never know that.

peace

+1

[bigjohn]

Back on the sidelines this year, sir. My HC thought he needed my rule knowledge and game abilities on the field.

You and I know it all comes down to what the crew that is on the field wants to call, so it really doesn't matter what you or I think or say. I am just saying I don't think the snap in this video is a legal and there were officials that agreed with me.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Back on the sidelines this year, sir. My HC thought he needed my rule knowledge and game abilities on the field.

You and I know it all comes down to what the crew that is on the field wants to call, so it really doesn't matter what you or I think or say. I am just saying I don't think the snap in this video is a legal and there were officials that agreed with me.

We are not talking about crews that worked your games. We are looking at a rather old video and we are ruling on what happen in the video. Of course different crews are going to be different in ability that is why some are not working at all at this time of the year and never will be like crews I am on and others I know well. And on my crew I have three football IHSA Clinicians and if we have any dispute as to what a ruling is, we know where to go to ask above our heads. And the 5 of us run more camps or asked to clinician in football as well as my background as a clinician in basketball. So of course not every crew is going to have that background or knowledge that we would have or others that are similar in your area and other areas. This is why I do not listen to sophomore crews for how to do things in our state. Wow, so you found a couple of people that agree with you. I can show any video and not have 100% of the people agreed with what took place. That is not unusual, but sometimes you can tell those that seem to disagree why they disagree.

Peace

[bigjohn]

Fasinating.