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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 08:59am
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There is nothing legal about picking the ball up and handing it to the QB. Now, on any given Friday, there will be a U who doesn't want to call it that way so I guess that night it is LEGAL. That is why we have plays like this being called the greatest trick play ever!

I agree there can be different interpretations of the rules but no one can look at this video and say, that is a good snap.
Maybe you've missed the fact that this play was illegal for a completely different reason.

Regarding the snap - the fact that you keep saying "there's nothing legal about picking the ball up and handing it to the QB" doesn't make it true. By RULE, the snap we see in this video is legal. The snap is, in fact, by definition "picking the ball up and handing it to the QB". Just because you are accustomed to seeing this under the legs of the center (because such a snap provides more protection for the offense than any other way of snapping) doesn't make it the ONLY way to snap. In fact, the old stand-to-the-side and hand it to the QB method, while antiquated, is still legal (albeit a great way to get your QB killed).

The play we see here is not legal ... but not because of the snap.
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 09:47am
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No I understand unfair acts completely, my point is it is not a legal snap. LOL!!!!!
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 10:52am
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No I understand unfair acts completely, my point is it is not a legal snap. LOL!!!!!
OK ... but you've been told by official after official that by current rule and interpretation, it is.
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 10:57am
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and by many that it is not legal, hmmmmmmmmmm!
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 11:25am
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and by many that it is not legal, hmmmmmmmmmm!
I have a solution. Get your behind off the sideline and do it for yourself. Then tell us what your peers say and how you call the game. It is a lot easier to run your mouth at what should be done and you have never done it once. Because if you call the wrong thing unlike here, you might not go back or work that level you want again. This was a legal snap and you have not shown anything that suggests otherwise, but your typical complaining about things you are unwilling to do.

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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 12:22pm
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There are guys reading this and some have posted that think you are wrong, Mr Rutledge. They say the snap is not quick enough or immediate. That is not just my interpretation. I also have talked with officials that work games every Friday and some that have even done State Finals, that do not agree with you. So it is like I always say, the rules change every Friday night depending on the crew and there skill set and interprtations.
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 12:33pm
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There are guys reading this and some have posted that think you are wrong, Mr Rutledge. They say the snap is not quick enough or immediate. That is not just my interpretation. I also have talked with officials that work games every Friday and some that have even done State Finals, that do not agree with you. So it is like I always say, the rules change every Friday night depending on the crew and there skill set and interprtations.
So they think I am wrong? Good for them. My question is what levels do they work? What positions do they hold in their state, are they a clinician, an assignor or a rules interpreter? There are also people here that think you should call something without seeing it too, what does that prove? You are the one that started this and there are a lot of others that seem to agree that this is a legal snap. And again if you have never had to put your behind on the line to rule on these plays, I at least have respect for those that officiate. You are just a baby that wants to debate things your big behind is unwilling to do yourself. If you think the only rules discussions I have or others have is on this site, you have no idea. Or how much some of us go back and forth with interpretations and if we dispute we go to those higher up to get clarification. But when you are sitting in the cozy press box you would never know that.

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