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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 07:06am
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shall not:
a. Remove both hands from the ball.
b. Make any movement that simulates a snap.
c. Fail to clearly pause before the snap.
d. Following adjustment, lift or move the ball other than in a legal snap.
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 08:09am
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shall not:
a. Remove both hands from the ball.
b. Make any movement that simulates a snap.
c. Fail to clearly pause before the snap.
d. Following adjustment, lift or move the ball other than in a legal snap.
a - he didn't remove both hands from the ball.
b - he didn't make any movement that simulates a snap.
c - he (the center) clearly paused.
d - I recognize that you don't agree that this was a legal snap, and if you have a beef, it's there --- but given that this was a legal snap, he did not lift or move the ball other than in a legal snap.
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 08:13am
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I would say what happened on this play was much closer to a lift than a snap. Any official on the field should be looking for a reason to kill this play and I just gave you an excellent one. Illegal snap.

Why would anyone argue that that was a legal snap?
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 08:47am
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Because it is a legal snap, for reasons that several other posters have already described to you.

I think this graphic sums it up nicely:
http://ehmsnbc.com/wp-content/upload...dead_horse.jpg
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 08:53am
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There is nothing legal about picking the ball up and handing it to the QB. Now, on any given Friday, there will be a U who doesn't want to call it that way so I guess that night it is LEGAL. That is why we have plays like this being called the greatest trick play ever!

I agree there can be different interpretations of the rules but no one can look at this video and say, that is a good snap.
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 08:59am
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There is nothing legal about picking the ball up and handing it to the QB. Now, on any given Friday, there will be a U who doesn't want to call it that way so I guess that night it is LEGAL. That is why we have plays like this being called the greatest trick play ever!

I agree there can be different interpretations of the rules but no one can look at this video and say, that is a good snap.
Maybe you've missed the fact that this play was illegal for a completely different reason.

Regarding the snap - the fact that you keep saying "there's nothing legal about picking the ball up and handing it to the QB" doesn't make it true. By RULE, the snap we see in this video is legal. The snap is, in fact, by definition "picking the ball up and handing it to the QB". Just because you are accustomed to seeing this under the legs of the center (because such a snap provides more protection for the offense than any other way of snapping) doesn't make it the ONLY way to snap. In fact, the old stand-to-the-side and hand it to the QB method, while antiquated, is still legal (albeit a great way to get your QB killed).

The play we see here is not legal ... but not because of the snap.
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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 09:47am
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No I understand unfair acts completely, my point is it is not a legal snap. LOL!!!!!
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