Punt Return Penalty

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Which is why it doesn't bother me at all when I miss one of these weird rules. I do the best I can, but if they think I can see if a LB is 4 yards off or 3 yards off with 3 officials on the field, they're crazy.

Typical "let's make up rules for the good of the kids" stupidity. Reminds me of all the house rules that local Little Leagues try to put in place and then complain when we don't enforce them in the tournament.

This is why I *rarely* work youth games and only if they're close to the house and the teams are really desperate.

I agree and one of the reasons I am not available for these games either. Then again Saturdays and Sundays have either other football games going on or personal things I would rather do.

Peace

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I agree and one of the reasons I am not available for these games either. Then again Saturdays and Sundays have either other football games going on or personal things I would rather do. Peace

Several years ago I was assigned to work a local Div III JV game on a Wednesday afternoon. The Referee assigned had been the Referee the previous Saturday at Notre Dame. Before the game I asked why he was assigned to this contest, he replied, "to get in snaps to be ready for the coming weekend".

Youth football can certainly be a challenge, but presents enormous opportunity to hone "people" skills, that are so critical at higher levels, as well as gaining experience in dealing with and responding to, a much higher probability of totally unexpected situations.

Beyond that, you might even help direct some players, or even young coaches, to paths of behavior you may be happy they took, at some future point at a higher level of competition. Officiating allows us to take a lot away from the game, at different points the game needs us to pay the piper.

[JRutledge]

ajmc,

Availability has little to do with not wanting to see plays. I do not know about you, but I have things going on with officiating during the week that has nothing to do with football officiating and have to answer to more people if I am not available to them. I teach a basketball class for over a month in the fall, I am a President of basketball division that meets every week and I must attend and I try to attend meetings of a couple other associations I belong to during the week as well. Maybe that D1 official does not work other sports, but me and others do. Also around here D1 JV games are on Sundays and Mondays, I could not work all of them if I wanted to and I have worked a couple of those games this past year including last Sunday. And I do not have children or direct family obligations either like many of my fellow officials do. I know guys that claim they would not have a wife anymore if they worked most days of the week no matter what the sport, our families are more important. Not everyone's availability is based on not wanting to work a level. Much of my availability is based on what is going on my church and what I do in college on weekends. I could make more money if officiating was my only obligation, but for me it is not. Just like this weekend where I am going to celebrate a family event on Saturday and I have a college basketball staff meeting on Sunday morning and I will be gone most of the tonight working post season football. All of this while missing my Cardinals play in Game 7. Everyone cannot be everywhere.

Peace

[bcl1127]

Now that this has taken a turn towards why work youth games, I'll tell you why I do it:

There are a couple of reasons, first and foremost, I enjoy being on the football field. Be it a Friday night Varsity contest, or the youth games I work on the weekends, it is something I love doing, and seeing the season is so short, I do not turn down the opportunity to be out there.

Second, I enjoy helping the kids and coaches enjoy the game. I cannot tell you how many times in the past two weeks I've had a coach come up and tell me "thanks for helping me with that illegal shift problem in week two, thanks to you the kids learned how to set correctly" or something to that effect. I coach my son's baseball team, and I know that these guys are just dad's out there so they might not know all the rules, so being proactive and helping makes me feel good.

Third, the assignor for the league I am working in is on my HS crew, so helping out a friend put the best possible officials out on the field is something that I would also do.

Last - it is a good way to get to know other officials and see how they work. I have met people at association meetings and what not, but working with them and seeing how they interact with folks is really something that you cannot get anywhere other than on the field. Who knows when that connection might be something that helps out in the future. Getting a small bump in income during the fall before Christmas is nice as well.

As with everything, there are also minuses to working these games -

Working 6 or 7 games on usually less than ideal fields can be a pain (literally)

It is mentally draining to listen to the Parents and spectators all day yelling about NFL rules to you on the fields.

It does take away from my family time. This is something that really is the worst part, but it is for 12 weeks in the fall and I do not work any other sports, so my family is fine with it, plus they come out to the field and watch and enjoy the atmosphere most weeks.

Some of the attitudes of these young kids and parents is disturbing. to see young kids out there swearing and with such huge chips on their shoulders makes me very sad. Also seeing how some parents push their kids to the point of crying is a shame. But what this does it help me to see this behavior and in reality makes me a better Dad, in my opinion.

So all in all there are positives and negatives, but I just enjoy being on the football field, so I dedicate my weekends and Friday nights in the fall to Football.

[JRutledge]

Everyone has to decide why they officiate. Just because someone thinks they can only get experience by working these games does not make it true. I learn more from video we get from coaches on our Friday games or the class I help teach in the summer or the camp I help with in the summer where officials are working 7 on 7 and some contact days. It is like I tell officials in basketball, you can often learn more from watching games and seeing the game than actually working sometimes.

Peace

[bcl1127]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Everyone has to decide why they officiate. Just because someone thinks they can only get experience by working these games does not make it true. I learn more from video we get from coaches on our Friday games or the class I help teach in the summer or the camp I help with in the summer where officials are working 7 on 7 and some contact days. It is like I tell officials in basketball, you can often learn more from watching games and seeing the game than actually working sometimes.

Peace

Agreed, I don't necessarily think I learn much from these games, I learn more from watching my game films from Friday, it is just something I enjoy (Call me crazy )

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

ajmc,

I do not know Not everyone's availability is based on not wanting to work a level. Everyone cannot be everywhere.

Peace

My comment wasn't directed to you personally, or your situation, rather just a general suggestion that when officials choose to make themself available for officiating youth football, it can be both a self rewarding exercise and also provides an opportunity (at times involving dealing with a little disorganization and annoyance) in helping those involved understand how the game is supposed to be managed.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ajmc

My comment wasn't directed to you personally, or your situation, rather just a general suggestion that when officials choose to make themself available for officiating youth football, it can be both a self rewarding exercise and also provides an opportunity (at times involving dealing with a little disorganization and annoyance) in helping those involved understand how the game is supposed to be managed.

I really did not take it personally. But I think we need to worry more why we get out their individually, than why others get out there. We are all not motivated by the same things and if people want to work youth ball I am fine with it. If I wasn't I would not still do it from time to time. But not everyone wants to do it for the reasons you mentioned. I have also worked enough years where I have more choices than others too.

Peace