BJ Duties - Muff etc

[CT1]

Simply put: If R never gains possession, K can never advance.

[mbyron]

I have 2 tips:
1. Memorize rule 6. On our crews BJ is responsible for any questions regarding rule 6.
2. Learn what the bean bags are for, which is in the mechanics manual. If your state has a mechanic for bagging the end of a kick using white or blue, use that one. Otherwise, it's up to you: but you should use the same one every time for the end of the kick, and the other for the end of the run.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by CT1

Simply put: If R never gains possession, K can never advance.

Simply put: that's incorrect.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Simply put: that's incorrect.

OK, I assumed the kick was past the LOS, since OP asked about BJ duties.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by CT1

OK, I assumed the kick was past the LOS, since OP asked about BJ duties.

It's not even true for kicks that go beyond the neutral zone, since it matters where it's recovered not where it goes.

Sorry, but it's a peeve of mine when people use oversimplified "rules" that can lead into error.

Is the correct rule so hard to remember? The only kick K can advance is a scrimmage kick that they recover behind the neutral zone.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by mbyron

It's not even true for kicks that go beyond the neutral zone, since it matters where it's recovered not where it goes.

Sorry, but it's a peeve of mine when people use oversimplified "rules" that can lead into error.

Is the correct rule so hard to remember? The only kick K can advance is a scrimmage kick that they recover behind the neutral zone.

I understand where you're coming from, but a BJ is never going to rule on that.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by CT1

I understand where you're coming from, but a BJ is never going to rule on that.

Slow learner should NEVER say never... However, no matter what your position on the field, you'd better know all the rules and not just the ones you think you are likely to rule on. I was BJ my first varsity season and it was not any longer than the SECOND game that I had to work one at HL due to emergency.

I suspect that you DO know the rules... but remember where you are. You're replying to someone you don't know (who, in fact, has a whopping 1 post). You post your little generalization there, and Newbie "LEARNS" your rule of thumb. Then blows his whistle one day when your rule of thumb is dead wrong because suddenly he's not at BJ, he's at HL.

mb's point is important - the rule that applies here is easy ... simplifying something that is already simple is not necessary, especially at the cost of actually not ALWAYS being correct.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by CT1

I understand where you're coming from, but a BJ is never going to rule on that.

I keep talking about the rules, and you keep talking about the BJ.

As others have pointed out, everyone needs to know the rules. As a general statement, it is false that K can never advance a kick that is untouched by R. It matters not at all that the BJ will not rule on that.

[CT1]

[QUOTE=mbyron;788235]I keep talking about the rules, and you keep talking about the BJ.
QUOTE]

Read the first line of the OP.