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BJ Duties - Muff etc
1st BJ game have a couple of questions:
Question 1 On a Punt R muff's (bobbles) it at his own 5, it rolls in end zone which R recovers. 1) Bag it at the 5, if so does it matter what color (we have a white and blue)? 2) Blow it dead when R recover (they can't advance muff)? 3) Safety? Question 2 Is it still a muff if it just bounces of any R beyond the NZ, can R or K advance it then? Question 2 Muffs can not be advanced by either K or R if past the neutral zone? Question 3 Bag all Punts (again does color matter)? Thanks.... |
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Question 1:
Once the ball rolls into the endzone on a kick, the ball is dead and a touchback. It is not necessary to bag the spot of touching by R but my crew does, just to let everyone know that R touched the ball. Question 2: If it's beyond the NZ, R is the only one who can advance it, but K can recover. Once K gains possession, the ball is dead. Question 3: Muffs can be advanced by R but not K. Once K gains possession, the ball is dead. Question 4: Not sure, because we don't use different colors. |
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Mikey, don't forget that ANY kick going into R's end zone is ALWAYS a touchback.
A kick remains a kick u ntil it is possessed or becomes dead by rule. R touching or muffing a kick doesn't end the kick. So it's still a touchback when the muffed kick crosses the goal line plane.
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I have 2 tips:
1. Memorize rule 6. On our crews BJ is responsible for any questions regarding rule 6. 2. Learn what the bean bags are for, which is in the mechanics manual. If your state has a mechanic for bagging the end of a kick using white or blue, use that one. Otherwise, it's up to you: but you should use the same one every time for the end of the kick, and the other for the end of the run.
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We all know that ball is dead with TB the second it breaks the plane of the GL....or we all do now : ) I would read up long and hard on your mechanics with handling Fair Catch responsibilities also....better to be over prepared at this stage for anything. Good luck.
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Sorry, but it's a peeve of mine when people use oversimplified "rules" that can lead into error. Is the correct rule so hard to remember? The only kick K can advance is a scrimmage kick that they recover behind the neutral zone.
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I suspect that you DO know the rules... but remember where you are. You're replying to someone you don't know (who, in fact, has a whopping 1 post). You post your little generalization there, and Newbie "LEARNS" your rule of thumb. Then blows his whistle one day when your rule of thumb is dead wrong because suddenly he's not at BJ, he's at HL. mb's point is important - the rule that applies here is easy ... simplifying something that is already simple is not necessary, especially at the cost of actually not ALWAYS being correct.
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Definitions!
Learn when a kick ends: when possessed or when the ball becomes dead. I reiterate this definition many times when working with new officials. That muff didn't end the kick and therefore if it went into R's endzone it is a touchback. |
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As others have pointed out, everyone needs to know the rules. As a general statement, it is false that K can never advance a kick that is untouched by R. It matters not at all that the BJ will not rule on that.
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