Not a FED rule...yet

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Why should USC by a ballcarrier be penalized any differently from USC by any other player or non-player participant?

To put a stop to the stupid taunting that so many runners do on a scoring run. Flag a kid and take away the TD, you'll put a stop to this nonsense. It's coming!

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

To put a stop to the stupid taunting that so many runners do on a scoring run.

That's what an audience looks at, but it's no better or worse than the taunting that goes on at all other positions (and off the field) all game long. So I suspect NCAA there of making rules for audiences rather than players.

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

That's what an audience looks at, but it's no better or worse than the taunting that goes on at all other positions (and off the field) all game long. So I suspect NCAA there of making rules for audiences rather than players.

then you suspect wrong. If during a run by A1, A53 is called for taunting B57 behind the play and before A1 crosses the goal line, the TD will be taken off of the board and the penalty enforced from the spot of the foul. It doesn't just apply to the runner

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by cmathews

then you suspect wrong. If during a run by A1, A53 is called for taunting B57 behind the play and before A1 crosses the goal line, the TD will be taken off of the board and the penalty enforced from the spot of the foul. It doesn't just apply to the runner

So the original article's reference to "a player...while scoring" was over-specific?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

So the original article's reference to "a player...while scoring" was over-specific?

Yes, it was. The rule was simply changed so that USC by a player is a live ball foul penalized under 3-and-1 enforcement.

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

So the original article's reference to "a player...while scoring" was over-specific?

Nope your reference to the NCAA just catering to what the audience sees is where you "suspect" incorrectly. If that were the case they wouldn't have included those UNS fouls that occur behind the play.

[BoBo]

Originally Posted by cmathews

then you suspect wrong. If during a run by A1, A53 is called for taunting B57 behind the play and before A1 crosses the goal line, the TD will be taken off of the board and the penalty enforced from the spot of the foul. It doesn't just apply to the runner

I disagree with this- if A53 is taunting B57 saying running his mouth or dancing and you are calling this unsportsmanlike then it is enforced from the succeeding spot. USC are deadball fouls.

You are confusing Personal Fouls behind the runner scoring. Like A53 peeling back way behind the play and taking a chance and hitting a defenseless player.

That is the way I understand the rule anyway.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by BoBo

I disagree with this- if A53 is taunting B57 saying running his mouth or dancing and you are calling this unsportsmanlike then it is enforced from the succeeding spot. USC are deadball fouls.

You are confusing Personal Fouls behind the runner scoring. Like A53 peeling back way behind the play and taking a chance and hitting a defenseless player.

That is the way I understand the rule anyway.

He is talking about the NCAA rule change this year. Under NCAA rules, UNS by a player during a play is now a live ball foul.

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by Welpe

He is talking about the NCAA rule change this year. Under NCAA rules, UNS by a player during a play is now a live ball foul.

yep correct I was referring to the NCAA Ruling

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

That's what an audience looks at, but it's no better or worse than the taunting that goes on at all other positions (and off the field) all game long. So I suspect NCAA there of making rules for audiences rather than players.

The NCAA or any rules organization can create whatever rule they want to for whatever reason they choose to. Taunting at that level is a major problem in the NCAA's eyes and they want it to stop. This has led to other problems and why we have all kinds of rules for pre-game activities and players coming off the bench is because things that were not rules were once allowed and it leads to problems. If this will make it stop when you start taking away obvious scores away from teams and costing games. Now in my experience this is not a problem at the HS level because I cannot recall too many times where a player does anything before they get across the goal line.

Peace