Washington officials finally disciplined for charity pink whistles

[chseagle]

This just goes to show you that the Todd Stordahl doesn't seem to care about the thoughts/feelings of the officials' associations he is over.

To ban an entire organization from doing playoff games for 2 years while threatening then with decertification for wanting to support a worthwhile cause is wrong.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by chseagle

This just goes to show you that the Todd Stordahl doesn't seem to care about the thoughts/feelings of the officials' associations he is over.

To ban an entire organization from doing playoff games for 2 years while threatening then with decertification for wanting to support a worthwhile cause is wrong.

1. It's not about feelings, it's about power.

2. The penalty has nothing whatever to do with supporting causes, worthwhile or otherwise. It has everything to do with incremental punishment for a group of habitual offenders.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by mbyron

The penalty has nothing whatever to do with supporting causes, worthwhile or otherwise. It has everything to do with incremental punishment for a group of habitual offenders.

So what about those in the association that did not participate in wearing of the pink whistles? Why should they be punished? (there had to be some that didn't participate)

How come College Football & No Fun League are allowed to support Breast Cancer Awareness yet HS Football cannot?

I came to my conclusions, not by reading just one article, but by searching for all the different articles about this situation & reading each one.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by chseagle

So what about those in the association that did not participate in wearing of the pink whistles? Why should they be punished? (there had to be some that didn't participate)

I don't no whether there are those that didn't participate or not. But I know the decision to go against the WOA was made by the PNFOA. The assoication made the decision for all of it's members, therefore are members are subject to any disciplie.

How come College Football & No Fun League are allowed to support Breast Cancer Awareness yet HS Football cannot?

That's a really stupid question. HS football officials can support Breast Cancer Awareness if they choose. No one has ever said they couldn't. So why publicly violate what the WOA has said would be allowed? Why couldn't they just publicly made a contribution to a local charity association with BCA? The answer is simple. They weren't interested in Breast Cancer Awareness. They wanted to rebel against the WOA.

[TXMike]

What's stupid is some bunch of yahoos who can perceive one iota of logic in declaring officials of a certain sport can only publicly support one charity.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

It's not symbolic; it's asinine.

Wearing a pink whistle or using a blue flag is asinine???

I'm beginning to think you're either asinine or that you can't read and comprehend a simple statement.

[quote]What possible purpose did it serve to deny the request the local association made other than to inflate egos at WOA by exercising arbitrary power? [/qoute]

How about because a decision had already been read by the executive board, which is comprised of members from local associations from across the state, on how such situations would be handled so that there would be statewide consistency?

Originally Posted by Eastshire

It's clear to me that it's time the WOA was disbanded. It's clearly more interested in exercising arbitrary power than serving the interest of the officials it purportedly represents.

Seriously, what kind of person prohibits a display in support of breast cancer awareness?

You don't even know what the WOA is comprised of, do you? You should like some of the fans I read, complaining about their state association.

Originally Posted by TXMike

What's stupid is some bunch of yahoos who can perceive one iota of logic in declaring officials of a certain sport can only publicly support one charity.

Support all the charities you want, just do it within the guidelines that representatives from all local associations have previously agreed to. How difficult is that to do?

I swear you guys sound like fans, whining and complaining about officials. I'm done.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Support all the charities you want, just do it within the guidelines that representatives from all local associations have previously agreed to. How difficult is that to do?

I swear you guys sound like fans, whining and complaining about officials. I'm done.

Except they can't because they don't work soccer or volleyball. The WOA acted like jerks and we're calling them on it. You can try to spin it as much as you want, but at the end of the day the WOA dictates to its member what charities they can support, despite what you say above.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by chseagle

This just goes to show you that the Todd Stordahl doesn't seem to care about the thoughts/feelings of the officials' associations he is over.

To ban an entire organization from doing playoff games for 2 years while threatening then with decertification for wanting to support a worthwhile cause is wrong.

This post just goes to show that you really don't have a clue about this whole situation. There is so much more to the situation than what is in the article posted...the PNFOA has consistently disregarded the WOA rules and policies, and has basically told the WOA that they would do whatever they wanted...to me, this discipline is not enough.

[jfurdell]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

This post just goes to show that you really don't have a clue about this whole situation. There is so much more to the situation than what is in the article posted...the PNFOA has consistently disregarded the WOA rules and policies, and has basically told the WOA that they would do whatever they wanted...to me, this discipline is not enough.

I'm in the PNFOA and would like to hear the details on what rules & policies we've disregarded. (I'm not on the board, and I really don't know the details surrounding this situation outside of what's been released by the WOA.)
-JLF

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jfurdell

I'm in the PNFOA and would like to hear the details on what rules & policies we've disregarded. (I'm not on the board, and I really don't know the details surrounding this situation outside of what's been released by the WOA.)
-JLF

And that is part of the problem. It seems or sounds like this was the big issue. If it was not, then tell the entire story. Just saying there are other violations seems a little silly if you are not being more specific.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by chseagle

This just goes to show you that the Todd Stordahl doesn't seem to care about the thoughts/feelings of the officials' associations he is over.

To ban an entire organization from doing playoff games for 2 years while threatening then with decertification for wanting to support a worthwhile cause is wrong.

An uninformed post but not unusual for you.

The WOA had an agreement with the basketball and volleyball officials to visibly support the fight against breast cancer and with the football officials to visibly support the fight against prostate cancer. The association knew this. It was explained that they couldn't violate the agreements in place. They chose to do so anyway.

Further, the decision to suspend the association from playoff games for two years was made by the WOA Board, not Stordahl.

[TXMike]

They let football guys have a "blue flag" day for prostrate cance awareness. They let basketball, volleyball and socceer use pink whistles. But for some reason these guys were not allowed to do the same. Sounds like someone was trying to flex their muscle. Not surprisingly it was a basketball coach/official.

[ODJ]

Another reason to Huck the Fuskies.

[asdf]

This is all about the Stordahl's....

Bungled from the beginning with his "I make the decisions around here" stance and his arrogant TV interview.

The board that suppsoedly made this decision is the same board that allows the WOA staff to consist of only Todd and Kerri Stordhal.

PR is a foreign term in this organization, from top to bottom.

[rockyroad]

Sigh...

So many people who don't know the whole story, read a few rants from columnists in newspapers, and then think they understand the whole situation.

The WOA has policies and procedures - including a process for gaining permission to do things like use pink whistles during games. The PNFOA did not follow those procedures. It's not the first time. They were told to do it right and basically told the WOA "screw you, we're gonna do it our way." Now they get the consequence - why did it take so long? Because the WOA Board only meets a couple of times a year.

This had absolutely nothing to do with the WOA not supporting cancer research, or not wanting officials to donate their money...it has everything to do with a small group of people in charge of this one local association trying to out-muscle the State association. Didn't work, so they went whining to the press back in the fall.