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tjones1 Thu May 19, 2011 02:09pm

Washington officials finally disciplined for charity pink whistles
 
Washington officials finally disciplined for charity pink whistles - Prep Rally - High SchoolBlog - Yahoo! Sports

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chseagle Thu May 19, 2011 02:39pm

This just goes to show you that the Todd Stordahl doesn't seem to care about the thoughts/feelings of the officials' associations he is over.

To ban an entire organization from doing playoff games for 2 years while threatening then with decertification for wanting to support a worthwhile cause is wrong.

mbyron Thu May 19, 2011 05:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 759681)
This just goes to show you that the Todd Stordahl doesn't seem to care about the thoughts/feelings of the officials' associations he is over.

To ban an entire organization from doing playoff games for 2 years while threatening then with decertification for wanting to support a worthwhile cause is wrong.

1. It's not about feelings, it's about power.

2. The penalty has nothing whatever to do with supporting causes, worthwhile or otherwise. It has everything to do with incremental punishment for a group of habitual offenders.

rockyroad Fri May 20, 2011 04:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 759681)
This just goes to show you that the Todd Stordahl doesn't seem to care about the thoughts/feelings of the officials' associations he is over.

To ban an entire organization from doing playoff games for 2 years while threatening then with decertification for wanting to support a worthwhile cause is wrong.

This post just goes to show that you really don't have a clue about this whole situation. There is so much more to the situation than what is in the article posted...the PNFOA has consistently disregarded the WOA rules and policies, and has basically told the WOA that they would do whatever they wanted...to me, this discipline is not enough.

BktBallRef Fri May 20, 2011 04:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 759681)
This just goes to show you that the Todd Stordahl doesn't seem to care about the thoughts/feelings of the officials' associations he is over.

To ban an entire organization from doing playoff games for 2 years while threatening then with decertification for wanting to support a worthwhile cause is wrong.

An uninformed post but not unusual for you.

The WOA had an agreement with the basketball and volleyball officials to visibly support the fight against breast cancer and with the football officials to visibly support the fight against prostate cancer. The association knew this. It was explained that they couldn't violate the agreements in place. They chose to do so anyway.

Further, the decision to suspend the association from playoff games for two years was made by the WOA Board, not Stordahl.

TXMike Fri May 20, 2011 07:40pm

They let football guys have a "blue flag" day for prostrate cance awareness. They let basketball, volleyball and socceer use pink whistles. But for some reason these guys were not allowed to do the same. Sounds like someone was trying to flex their muscle. Not surprisingly it was a basketball coach/official.

ODJ Fri May 20, 2011 11:37pm

Another reason to Huck the Fuskies.

asdf Sat May 21, 2011 08:59am

This is all about the Stordahl's....

Bungled from the beginning with his "I make the decisions around here" stance and his arrogant TV interview.

The board that suppsoedly made this decision is the same board that allows the WOA staff to consist of only Todd and Kerri Stordhal.

PR is a foreign term in this organization, from top to bottom.

rockyroad Sat May 21, 2011 09:15am

Sigh...

So many people who don't know the whole story, read a few rants from columnists in newspapers, and then think they understand the whole situation.

The WOA has policies and procedures - including a process for gaining permission to do things like use pink whistles during games. The PNFOA did not follow those procedures. It's not the first time. They were told to do it right and basically told the WOA "screw you, we're gonna do it our way." Now they get the consequence - why did it take so long? Because the WOA Board only meets a couple of times a year.

This had absolutely nothing to do with the WOA not supporting cancer research, or not wanting officials to donate their money...it has everything to do with a small group of people in charge of this one local association trying to out-muscle the State association. Didn't work, so they went whining to the press back in the fall.

TXMike Sun May 22, 2011 10:42am

[QUOTE=rockyroad;760124]Sigh...

So many people who don't know the whole story, read a few rants from columnists in newspapers, and then think they understand the whole situation.

[QUOTE]

So why were other sports allowed to use pink whistles?

mbyron Sun May 22, 2011 12:30pm

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Originally Posted by TXMike (Post 760302)
So why were other sports allowed to use pink whistles?

Because they followed state procedures for a uniform exception.

TXMike Sun May 22, 2011 12:31pm

OK. So bureacracy is more important than common sense. Wonderful..

Eastshire Sun May 22, 2011 02:50pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 760320)
Because they followed state procedures for a uniform exception.

IIRC, they did follow procedures to request it and were told they were only allowed to support prostate cancer research.

Frankly, I don't care if this officials' association has consistently broken every rule in the book; WOA, and this Todd in particular, have been jerks in regards to this situation. Saying the local association isn't a group of choirboys doesn't change the fact that WOA board and staff are jerks.

BktBallRef Sun May 22, 2011 03:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXMike (Post 760321)
OK. So bureacracy is more important than common sense. Wonderful..

Following a simple process that's put in place by the governing body is common sense as opposed to saying, Screw you, we'll answer to no one and will do what we want."

Thought you were smarter than that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastshire (Post 760342)
Frankly, I don't care if this officials' association has consistently broken every rule in the book; WOA, and this Todd in particular, have been jerks in regards to this situation. Saying the local association isn't a group of choirboys doesn't change the fact that WOA board and staff are jerks.

Why? Because an official from the association who is also a sportswriter portray them as jerks in his story or because an official from the association who works for a TV station was able to get a news story slanted in his favor?

Eastshire Sun May 22, 2011 03:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 760344)
Following a simple process that's put in place by the governing body is common sense as opposed to saying, Screw you, we'll answer to no one and will do what we want."

Thought you were smarter than that.

Which, from what I can tell is exactly what WOA has done here.


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