ot time outs

[THE OFFICIAL]

if a team does not use a time out in the first ot does it carry that extra time out into the next ot etc etc

[KWH]

Originally posted by THE OFFICIAL
if a team does not use a time out in the first ot does it carry that extra time out into the next ot etc etc

This question was asked in an earlier hread entitled "OT Question". I have repeated it here...

I posed the question of time outs carrying over to George Demetriou who along with Rogers Redding publish "Officials Study Guide to NFHS Football Rules. George's response was as follows:

"The intent of the rule is for all timeouts starting with the second half to accumulate. Dick Schindler verified that in the early 90's. I agree the wording in the RB is confusing."

It is also listed on Page 67 (2000 edition) of "Officials Study Guide to NFHS Football Rules" where it states "During each overtime period, each team is allocated one additional charged timeout. Timeouts remaining from the second half of regulation play AND unused timeouts from any previous overtime period(s) carry over."

Therefore based on Dick Schindler's interpetation, it is possible for Team A to have 6 timeouts remaining in OT session 3!

Hope this helps

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by THE OFFICIAL
if a team does not use a time out in the first ot does it carry that extra time out into the next ot etc etc

It depends on what state you officiate in. Since the NFHS OT procedure is a recommendation, states are allowed to make their own decisions regarding time-outs. For example, in NC and FL, an unused OT TO does not carry over to the next OT.

[KWH]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
...For example, in NC and FL, an unused OT TO does not carry over to the next OT... [/B]

BBR-
You have made this claim before regarding NC and FL.
Can you provide and written documentaion such as a website to support this deviation from NFHS rules.
While I believe states such as Oregon and Washington modify the tie-breaker to be first and ten on the 25, I find it had to believe that "carry over" timeouts would be modified.
Please point me in the direction of your source. As an instructer of NFHS rules I am curious where you are getting you information.

Thank you

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by KWH
BBR-
You have made this claim before regarding NC and FL.
Can you provide and written documentaion such as a website to support this deviation from NFHS rules.
While I believe states such as Oregon and Washington modify the tie-breaker to be first and ten on the 25, I find it had to believe that "carry over" timeouts would be modified.
Please point me in the direction of your source. As an instructer of NFHS rules I am curious where you are getting you information.

Thank you

I don't need to make a "claim." I post, based on the knowledge, material, and experience that I have obtained.

I have an email that was sent to all booking agents in NC, from Dick Knox, Deputy Executive Director of the NCHSAA, explaining the procedure. I have attended state rules clinics and heard Mr. Knox explain this during the clinic.

With regards to Florida, I have communicated with officials in that state and have read responses on the McGriff Football Discussion Board regarding this procedure. They tell me that their ruling is the same as the one we use. I have no reason to not believe them, even if you do find it "had" to believe.

There's no reason that a state can't have this TO ruling. It's no different that starting 1st and 10 from the 25. It's the state association's option. Have you considered that perhaps the NCHSAA or FHSAA want to limit the number of TOs available to a team in OT?

[KWH]

BBR
OK, so "claim" was the wrong word to use, please accept my appologies.
Could you please forward to me the e-mail from Mr. Knox? Or, can you provide me a phone number or address of the NCHSAA, I will contact them myself. I am considering adding the info as one of the topics for classroom discussion.
Thank you

[Theisey]

Rule 1-7 table entry 9.
A state can make any modification they want to resolve ties.
They do not have to follow anything written in the non-rule section of the NFHS book called "the 10-yard Line Overtime line Procedure".

It's a non-debatable issue. Except for those states playing NCAA extra period rules, you could have 48 variations of NFHS OT with ALL BEING CORRECT.