Back-Handspring Ejection

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I noticed the R's initial position long before I noticed the coat!

Well, I was in a hurry and those coats are a huge pet peeve of mine. I know some crews that wear them in pregame and that doesn't happen on our crew since we simply don't own any. UnderArmour Cold Gear, yes. Gloves, yes. I've even been known to wear a hood. But a winter coat with stripes on it?

But now that you've made me look again.

My.....God. He's directly behind the QB and about 6-7 yards deep. He clearly doesn't move well on top of that -- a recipe for potential disaster. Then he throws his flag behind himself.

Probably a state final ref.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I noticed the R's initial position long before I noticed the coat!

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Well, I was in a hurry and those coats are a huge pet peeve of mine. I know some crews that wear them in pregame and that doesn't happen on our crew since we simply don't own any. UnderArmour Cold Gear, yes. Gloves, yes. I've even been known to wear a hood. But a winter coat with stripes on it?

When an official does something that just looks silly like that, it tells me a lot about them. It tells me that they do not have an attention to detail (rules, mechanics or philosophy). And that they likely are not going to do many other things right if you look that way. Whoever has said that it looks good to wear a jacket? There are many uniform choices to be warm and not wear a jacket.

I guess this is the basketball official in me, I can tell immediately when someone can or cannot officiate by how they look and just see them run up and down the field. I know it is cold, but I do not see anyone at any other level (other than High School......surprise!!!) wearing a jacket on the field. It just looks silly. I do not even need to look at his positioning to tell he looked silly. And when the official started pointing and gyrating, that is all I needed to know at the end of the day.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

But now that you've made me look again.

My.....God. He's directly behind the QB and about 6-7 yards deep. He clearly doesn't move well on top of that -- a recipe for potential disaster. Then he throws his flag behind himself.

Probably a state final ref.

And you know he might be. But having been one I can tell you that just because you are a State Final official, certainly does not mean you got their purely on talent. There are a lot of factors to getting there and talent is just one of them. And no I am not saying politics, just saying that if you stay around long enough you might be able to get there under the right circumstances.

Peace

[bkdow]

We, here in Minnesota do wear stripped jackets in lower level contests. There have been a number of games that I have officiated when the temperature is below 40 with a stiff wind. In a varsity game, it's a no-no but lower level games it is acceptable.

Most of us own them because they are reversible and we wear the black side out during pre-game and at half time on those cold, rainy, and this year extremely windy nights.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by bkdow

We, here in Minnesota do wear stripped jackets in lower level contests. There have been a number of games that I have officiated when the temperature is below 40 with a stiff wind. In a varsity game, it's a no-no but lower level games it is acceptable.

Most of us own them because they are reversible and we wear the black side out during pre-game and at half time on those cold, rainy, and this year extremely windy nights.

Agreed.
I will wear the striped jacket for lower level games where it's extremely cold, windy, or raining.... but I won't wear it ever for varsity games (other then black-side-out during warm-ups/halftime).

Only happened twice for me this year though.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Probably a state final ref in Wisconsin.

Fixed it for ya.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Fixed it for ya.

Well....maybe.

WIAA football: Brodhead-Juda downs Nekoosa in OT

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Well....maybe.

WIAA football: Brodhead-Juda downs Nekoosa in OT

Have you seen the video of this yet?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Have you seen the video of this yet?

No, have you? I'd like to. I hope, *hope*, that there's something not being reported in the article and on the boards at wissports.net.

I'm in England, so I haven't really looked. Once I got my schedule, I booked a work trip for the week after my season ended.

[mj]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Have you seen the video of this yet?

I found it by searching under WAOW.

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by mj

I found it by searching under WAOW.

Can you forward or pm the link to me..? Would be interested in seeing that.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Well....maybe.

WIAA football: Brodhead-Juda downs Nekoosa in OT

Wow. They may have gotten this right but why the guy under the left upright didn't signal anything is beyond me. Maybe he knew it went directly over the upright but didn't know if that made it good or no good. That's not an excuse and something someone working at this level should know. There are errors that can be made and there is a lack of rules knowledge.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

Wow. They may have gotten this right but why the guy under the left upright didn't signal anything is beyond me. Maybe he knew it went directly over the upright but didn't know if that made it good or no good. That's not an excuse and something someone working at this level should know. There are errors that can be made and there is a lack of rules knowledge.

If you stop the ball right when it reaches the goal post it is inside. IMO