MIN/NYJ: First Play

tjones1 · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 11, 2010, 10:25pm

I didn't really understand the first play of the game where Farve was down field illegally... why wasn't it illegal touching?

APG · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 11, 2010, 10:40pm

Illegal touching of a forward pass is five yard just like an ineligible receiver downfield early. In reality, you would have both penalties.

tjones1 · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 11, 2010, 11:26pm

Ok... illegal touching doesn't carry the extra penalty (LOD) like Fed.

Thanks.

wyo-referee · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 11, 2010, 11:40pm

Why was he illegal, he is a back and has a legal number.

APG · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 11, 2010, 11:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyo-referee

Why was he illegal, he is a back and has a legal number.

By rule, a QB under center is an ineligible receiver.

Rule 8, Section 1, Article 6

(e) A player who takes his stance behind center as a T-formation quarterback is not an eligible receiver unless, before the ball is snapped, he legally moves to a position at least one yard behind the line of scrimmage or on the end of the line, and is stationary in that position for at least one second before the snap

Note: If he leaves his position behind the center and does not receive the snap, it is a false start unless he has been stationary for at least one second.

bkdow · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 12, 2010, 11:52am

Would he have been eligible if it was a shotgun formation?

Refsmitty · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 12, 2010, 12:13pm

Yes

Official · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 12, 2010, 07:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

By rule, a QB under center is an ineligible receiver.

Rule 8, Section 1, Article 6

(e) A player who takes his stance behind center as a T-formation quarterback is not an eligible receiver unless, before the ball is snapped, he legally moves to a position at least one yard behind the line of scrimmage or on the end of the line, and is stationary in that position for at least one second before the snap

Note: If he leaves his position behind the center and does not receive the snap, it is a false start unless he has been stationary for at least one second.

Is being set for a second to be eligible just for the QB?

BktBallRef · #9 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 12, 2010, 08:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Official

Is being set for a second to be eligible just for the QB?

The rule AllPurposeGamer quoted is an NFL rule. Don't even worry about it. It'll just confuse you as it doesn't apply for NFHS rules.

Robert Goodman · #10 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 13, 2010, 09:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Official

Is being set for a second to be eligible just for the QB?

It's to make him a back after shifting from a position not in the backfield, so it'd go for other players having so been so positioned as well.

I think it was about 40 yrs. ago that NCAA made the "T" QB an eligible receiver.

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