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Old Mon Sep 13, 2010, 09:33am
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Not gonna deny it. I was the Referee in this scenario.

Not gonna argue with anyone about the fact that there really isn't any rule support for the decision I made here. Unless of course you want to consider rule 1-1-6. I honestly don't think its all that crazy to consider 1-1-6 here.

Bottom line is this. I think we all need to try our best to do what is right. In this particular case I feel very comfortable in that regard. This was a very out of the ordinary kind of circumstance. The LJ should not have killed the clock in the 1st place. But since it happened, I had to deal with it the best way I knew how. I could've told team A that they had a 5 second play clock as someone suggested. But that would've been kinda difficult to do with the 25 second clock on the field in each endzone. I Would've had to go over and coordinate that with the pressbox. It would've been a major disruption to the flow of the game. So, I did what I did.

Obviously I've been thinking about it since the game this past friday, otherwise I wouldn't have even posted this. So, yeah, I wanted to get some opinions from the very smart folks on here.
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Old Mon Sep 13, 2010, 09:52am
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Also, since I'm assuming everyone here loves football here just as much as I do. Allow me to share what happened after the 25 second clock scenario. Very wild and crazy game between 2 very determined teams.

With 2:00 left in the game, Team A throws an incomplete pass. Brings up 4th down. They punt to team B. Team B gets a decent return. And within a couple plays or so, team B scores. Score is now 28-24 for team B. Team B then kicks off and team A runs a play or 2. Then team A throws an interception and takes it back for a TD. Now its 35-24 for team B. There is about 1:00 on the clock by this point. Team B kicks off again. Team A takes it all the way for a TD, and they go for 2 and fail. Now its 35-30 for team B. Maybe about 50 seconds left. Team A executes a picture perfect onside kick and gets it. Now, they have the ball with 1 timeout in their pocket. They didn't even have to use it. They threw great passes and get out of bounds to kill the clock. And the eventually scored a TD with 9 seconds left. They went for 2 and failed.

All that was left was a kickoff and one desperation pass. Ballgame over! Team A wins 36-35.

What a game it was.
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Old Mon Sep 13, 2010, 09:58am
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Not gonna argue with anyone about the fact that there really isn't any rule support for the decision I made here. Unless of course you want to consider rule 1-1-6. I honestly don't think its all that crazy to consider 1-1-6 here.
My Fed rules are sooooo ooolllld that that was 1-1-3, apparently having just been broken out of 1-1-2. However, unless things have changed, there's more specific justif'n, which was at that time 3-5-5h:

"An official's time-out occurs when...he orders the clock stopped...any unusual delay in getting the ball ready-for-play, or similar reasons which are not listed."
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Old Mon Sep 13, 2010, 10:55am
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Not gonna deny it. I was the Referee in this scenario.

Not gonna argue with anyone about the fact that there really isn't any rule support for the decision I made here. Unless of course you want to consider rule 1-1-6. I honestly don't think its all that crazy to consider 1-1-6 here.

Bottom line is this. I think we all need to try our best to do what is right. In this particular case I feel very comfortable in that regard. This was a very out of the ordinary kind of circumstance. The LJ should not have killed the clock in the 1st place. But since it happened, I had to deal with it the best way I knew how. I could've told team A that they had a 5 second play clock as someone suggested. But that would've been kinda difficult to do with the 25 second clock on the field in each endzone. I Would've had to go over and coordinate that with the pressbox. It would've been a major disruption to the flow of the game. So, I did what I did.

Obviously I've been thinking about it since the game this past friday, otherwise I wouldn't have even posted this. So, yeah, I wanted to get some opinions from the very smart folks on here.
Nah... just tell the coaches that the play clock will expire at 20 seconds.
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