Spot foul penalties

[Official]

so if the offense is at their own 35. a hold occurs at midfield the penalty for a hold is 10 yards and the offense moves up to their own 40?

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Official

so if the offense is at their own 35. a hold occurs at midfield the penalty for a hold is 10 yards and the offense moves up to their own 40?

Who's holding? What is the status of the ball during the foul? Where did the play end?

[Official]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Who's holding? What is the status of the ball during the foul? Where did the play end?

holding on number 53 of the offense. the ball was at the offenses own 47 yl. the play ended at the opponents 42.

[waltjp]

Let me put this all together so we agree.

A's ball on A's 35. A runs the ball to B's 47. A53 is flagged for holding at midfield.

The basic spot is the end of the run, B's 47. The foul occurred at midfield, behind the basic spot. This is the spot of enforcement.

The 10-yard penalty from midfield put the ball at A's 40. Replay the down if the line to gain has not been achieved after enforcement of the penalty, or 1st down if is has.

[Official]

Originally Posted by waltjp

Let me put this all together so we agree.

A's ball on A's 35. A runs the ball to B's 47. A53 is flagged for holding at midfield.

The basic spot is the end of the run, B's 47. The foul occurred at midfield, behind the basic spot. This is the spot of enforcement.

The 10-yard penalty from midfield put the ball at A's 40. Replay the down if the line to gain has not been achieved after enforcement of the penalty, or 1st down if is has.

Ok So it is now 1st and 5? It does not matter where the ball ended up. The spot of the foul is all we need for holding correct? The official will throw the flag where the foul occured on all spot fouls? But will just throw his flag randomly on other fouls?

[APG]

Originally Posted by Official

Ok So it is now 1st and 5? It does not matter where the ball ended up. The spot of the foul is all we need for holding correct? The official will throw the flag where the foul occured on all spot fouls? But will just throw his flag randomly on other fouls?

You'll have an official throw the flag at the spot of the foul for most fouls save for penalties that occur with the snap (offside, illegal formation, illegal shift, etc.) and dead ball penalties. Enforcement of a penalty is dependent on where the foul occurred, what was happening when the play, and where the play ended in relation to the spot of the foul. On your play, assuming it was 1st and 10 from A's 35, after enforcement, it would be 1st and 5 from A's 40. If the line to gain was achieved, it would be first and ten after enforcement.

[Official]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

You'll have an official throw the flag at the spot of the foul for most fouls save for penalties that occur with the snap (offside, illegal formation, illegal shift, etc.) and dead ball penalties. Enforcement of a penalty is dependent on where the foul occurred, what was happening when the play, and where the play ended in relation to the spot of the foul. On your play, assuming it was 1st and 10 from A's 35, after enforcement, it would be 1st and 5 from A's 40. If the line to gain was achieved, it would be first and ten after enforcement.

thank you for that clarification but i'm just not seeing how "where the ball ends up affects the enforcement of a penalty." In this situation we took it from the spot foul. In what situations does the end result of the ball play a factor.