Ravens / Steelers was the spot ok

[bbcof83]

Originally Posted by bossman72

8-7-6

Article 6 Fumble After Two-Minute Warning. If a fumble by either team occurs after
the two-minute warning:
(a) The ball may be advanced by any opponent.
(b) The player who fumbled is the only player of his team who is permitted to recover
and advance the ball.
(c) If the recovery or catch is by a teammate of the player who fumbled, the ball is dead,
and the spot of the next snap is the spot of the fumble, or the spot of the recovery
if the spot of the recovery is behind the spot of the fumble.

So is there any rule similar to this in NFHS? I had a coach ask that during a JV game where, on a 3rd and 1, the QB fumbled the snap and the ball bounced forward back through the center's legs then the QB dove on it past the LTG, 1st down. We have anything? It wasn't on purpose so I think not.

I don't think this should be penalized because there's no way any coach is stupid enough to fumble a ball on purpose. But I seem to remember that the act of throwing the ball forward out-of-bounds to either gain yardage or stop the clock is a foul. True? Reference?

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by bbcof83

So is there any rule similar to this in NFHS? I had a coach ask that during a JV game where, on a 3rd and 1, the QB fumbled the snap and the ball bounced forward back through the center's legs then the QB dove on it past the LTG, 1st down. We have anything? It wasn't on purpose so I think not.

I don't think this should be penalized because there's no way any coach is stupid enough to fumble a ball on purpose. But I seem to remember that the act of throwing the ball forward out-of-bounds to either gain yardage or stop the clock is a foul. True? Reference?

No fumble recovery restrictions exist under the NFHS code.

Throwing a forward pass incomplete deliberately to save either time or yardage is an Illegal forward Pass NF: 7-52-a through e.

[bbcof83]

Originally Posted by ajmc

No fumble recovery restrictions exist under the NFHS code.

Throwing a forward pass incomplete deliberately to save either time or yardage is an Illegal forward Pass NF: 7-52-a through e.

Thanks. What about throwing the ball backward OB? Simply wind it and spot where it went out?

[HLin NC]

There is no penalty for throwing a backward pass OB.

[bbcof83]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

There is no penalty for throwing a backward pass OB.

No, of course not. Does the clock run or stop though?

[Sonofanump]

Originally Posted by bbcof83

No, of course not. Does the clock run or stop though?

It is fumble out of bounds. Clock stops and starts on the snap unless we are in NCAA outside 2 minutes of the half.

[bisonlj]

In the Vikings game yesterday Jerad Allen intercepted a pass and while getting tackled tried to pass it to a teammate but the ball went forward and hit the ground. There was a scrum for the ball and the announcers were speculating who had it under the pile. I knew that was irrelevant. The short wing came up and dropped his flag where Allen threw the ball and then signaled incomplete. The R got on his mic and explained there was a foul for an illegal forward pass and Minnesota would have it 1st and 10 5 yards behind the spot of the pass. He then added the pass was incomplete. I knew the announcers would stumble on that one. After re-explaining what happened, one of them said, "But I don't know why he said the pass was incomplete. Allen clearly caught it and they gave Minnesota the ball."

[Sonofanump]

Originally Posted by ajmc

No fumble recovery restrictions exist under the NFHS code.

To add on, NCAA has a fourth down fumble rule similar to the NFL under 2 rule.