Incorrect Enforcement?

[Jim D.]

I agree that it was incorrectly enforced based on your description. Once the field goal was no good and the play was over, the ball goes over to the other team. Any dead ball action happens after K had lost the ball on downs.

[BroKen62]

Originally Posted by Jim D.

I agree that it was incorrectly enforced based on your description. Once the field goal was no good and the play was over, the ball goes over to the other team. Any dead ball action happens after K had lost the ball on downs.

Another question - After enforcement, is it 1st and 10? or 1st and Goal?

[jTheUmp]

OT possessions in Fed are always goal-to-go.

NFHS Rulebook, "Resolving Tied games", page 88:
"To start overtime, the offensive team shall put the ball in play, first and goal, on the defensive team's 10-yard line or succeeding spot if a carry-over penalty has been administered, anywhere between the inbounds lines."

One would think that this would apply to the second team's possession as well, but a few paragraphs down:
"After the first team on offense has completed its series of downs, the first team on defense will become the offensive team with the ball in its possession at the 10 yard line anywhere between the inbounds lines"

Strangely, there is no mention of a succeeding spot possibility for the second team on offense.

However, then we have 3.1.1 situation D:
"When the regulation game ends in a tie, the teams use the recommended tie-breaking procedure. A wins the toss and elects to take the ball. A1 scores on the third down. After A1 crosses the goal line: (a) A2 clips B1; or (b) B1 strikes A2. Ruling: Dead-ball fouls in both (a) and (b). The score counts and the penalties in both (a) and (b) are enforced on the try, because that is the succeeding spot."

Change this situation from "sores a touchdown" to "scores a field goal", and the ruling remains the same.

[Jim D.]

Originally Posted by BroKen62

Another question - After enforcement, is it 1st and 10? or 1st and Goal?

It all depends on where your from. Missouri uses a modified overtime procedure which is similar to NCAA. For us it would be 1st & 10.

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by Jim D.

It all depends on where your from. Missouri uses a modified overtime procedure which is similar to NCAA. For us it would be 1st & 10.

I live in PA. We use straight NFHS OT

[bigjohn]

probably be a long time before thatR does another playoff game!

[wvref1]

Did not see the play in question but recently heard that a possible explanation was that the kick was blocked, was still behind the LOS when someone had the dreaded IW. A friend of mine saw it on TV and said that there was no yardage markoff, just a replay of the down. The IW scenario explains this better than an USC. The excessive celebration call was probably coming from one of the talking heads trying to figure out what was going on. Or if they actually did mark off half the distance (again I didn't see it) the IW would explain replaying the down, because the USC sure doesn't explain it.

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by wvref1

Did not see the play in question but recently heard that a possible explanation was that the kick was blocked, was still behind the LOS when someone had the dreaded IW. A friend of mine saw it on TV and said that there was no yardage markoff, just a replay of the down. The IW scenario explains this better than an USC. The excessive celebration call was probably coming from one of the talking heads trying to figure out what was going on. Or if they actually did mark off half the distance (again I didn't see it) the IW would explain replaying the down, because the USC sure doesn't explain it.

That might make more sense. Rob King and Wolf on TV didn't know what was going on and the R did not get on the mic to give an explanation, so everyone was confused.