illegal formation

[joemato]

If you have 7 men on the line of scrimmage, and 4 men in the backfield,and the center is the last man on the right, he does not have to be covered by an end,right?

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by joemato

If you have 7 men on the line of scrimmage, and 4 men in the backfield,and the center is the last man on the right, he does not have to be covered by an end,right?

Right. He is the end.

[whitehat]

...and an eligible reciever if he has the right # jersey...

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by whitehat

...and an eligible reciever if he has the right # jersey...

Right, unless this is a scrimmage kick (FG) formation, in which case he would be ineligible.

[BoBo]

If this is 1st 2nd or 3rd down what numbering requirements if any do you have??

[ppaltice]

Originally Posted by bossman72

Right, unless this is a scrimmage kick (FG) formation, in which case he would be ineligible.

No.

If it is a scrimmage kick formation meeting Rule 7-2-5b, the snapper could be eligible if he is on the end of the line and has an eligible number. Depending on the down, you could have other players with eligible numbers that are in under the numbering exception. This is covered in Rule 7-2-5.

Definitely, if the snapper is on the end of the line, he is not in under the numbering exception and if he has an eligible number, he is an eligible receiver.

[CWIG]

Originally Posted by ppaltice

No.

If it is a scrimmage kick formation meeting Rule 7-2-5b, the snapper could be eligible if he is on the end of the line and has an eligible number. Depending on the down, you could have other players with eligible numbers that are in under the numbering exception. This is covered in Rule 7-2-5.

Definitely, if the snapper is on the end of the line, he is not in under the numbering exception and if he has an eligible number, he is an eligible receiver.

Not sure if I agree with your interpretation of rule 7-2-5b excep. 1. I believe the intent of this rule is to make the snapper ineligble. Two reasons. #1 - why even have this rule if Team A could always justify that their snapper was eligible by saying that another lineman was using the numbering exception. #2 - to qoute the rule "if Team A has the snapper in the game under this exception, Team A shal have at least four players wearing numbers 50-79 on its line of scrimmage". The key words to me are "at least". This means that Team A could have 5 or 6 linemen numbered 50-79 in on this field goal formation, but the snapper is still ineligible and cannot be on the end of the LOS. I believe that if it is a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd down field goal formation, the snapper can be whatever number but will need to be between the ends and is an ineligible pass receiver unless the pass is touched by B. Still, it will be worth some discussion at our next meeting.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by joemato

If you have 7 men on the line of scrimmage, and 4 men in the backfield,and the center is the last man on the right, he does not have to be covered by an end,right?

You mean the snapper, right?

[daggo66]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You mean the snapper, right?

"Who" is the snapper, "What" is the TE.

[ajmc]

Am I missing something? If a team is NOT using the "numbering exception" (they deploy 5 men numbered between 50-79 on the LOS) the snapper can wear whatever number he likes, and snap from wherever he chooses. If he happens to be wearing an eligible number, and snaps from either end of the line he would be eligible to catch a forward pass

If he snaps from anywhere inside the ends, on the LOS, it doesn't matter what number he wears but he will not be an eligible receiver, because of his "position".

ALL the numbering exception requirements apply ONLY when the numbering exception is used.