Tackified Gloves

[Ed Hickland]

Be careful, other day went to one of the large sporting goods stores in the New York metro area and spotted what was labeled "Tackified Gloves."

Memory served me correctly tackified gloves became illegal in 1994, yet, these gloves contained the phrase on the package "Certified for NFHS and NCAA use."

Does not mean a thing because rule 1-5-2c plainly stated there must be an attached label of stamp indicating NF/NCAA approval.

One more note, plain cloth goves like garden gloves are legal without the stamp or label.

[jfurdell]

What do they mean by tackified?

[Huskerblue]

It means that they are sticky.

[Theisey]

I would have opened the package to see what the label attached to the gloves looked like.

Maybe it really does say "NF/NCAA Specifications". What more can we go by? If the manufacturer has such a label, either they are trying to pull a fast one on us or else they are really approved for usage.

Out of curiosity, where they Grey in color?

[Ed Hickland]

Originally posted by Theisey
I would have opened the package to see what the label attached to the gloves looked like.

Maybe it really does say "NF/NCAA Specifications". What more can we go by? If the manufacturer has such a label, either they are trying to pull a fast one on us or else they are really approved for usage.

Out of curiosity, where they Grey in color?

Oh! my curiousity opened the package. The only thing inside or outside the glove was Inspector 21's label.

I looked up the NCAA glove rule and there is no certification label required and the color of the gloves meets their specs.

[Theisey]

Originally posted by Ed Hickland

Oh! my curiousity opened the package. The only thing inside or outside the glove was Inspector 21's label.

I looked up the NCAA glove rule and there is no certification label required and the color of the gloves meets their specs. [/B]

Ed,

You must not have looked in the right place. A certifcation label is required for NCAA. It is rule 1-4-5-n.
The 2002 rules defined the color gray (not grey) a little more this year.

Looks like this manufacturer is trying to make a fast buck hoping that no umpire will actually check the gloves unless it happens to be called to his attention.

[Edited by Theisey on Jul 26th, 2002 at 12:32 PM]

[Ed Hickland]

Originally posted by Theisey

Ed,

You must not have looked in the right place. A certifcation label is required for NCAA. It is rule 1-4-5-n.
The 2002 rules defined the color gray (not grey) a little more this year.

Looks like this manufacturer is trying to make a fast buck hoping that no umpire will actually check the gloves unless it happens to be called to his attention.

[Edited by Theisey on Jul 26th, 2002 at 12:32 PM] [/B]

You are right. Nike pointed out to me the certification label is located on the inside of the glove attached to the inseam in the area between the thumb and the fore finger.

[Ed Hickland]

"2002 NFHS Football Rules Interpretations, Interpretations, Situation 7" added a Comment that changed, at least, my interpretation of the glove rule.

According to the situation the umpire sees a glove with webbing between the thumb and forefinger and correctly rules the gloves illegal.

Reason, the rules committee felt the webbing gave an unfair advantage that did not agree with the philosophy of the interscholastic game AND the NF/NCAA label refers only to the tackiness of the palm and fingers of the glove and not the overall legality.

[Mike Simonds]

Interesting posts regarding gloves. Rule 1-5-4 makes the umpire the final authority regarding the legality of player equipment. I agree with philosophy expressed in NFHS 2002 interpretation situation 7: Any item of player equipment that gives a player an unfair advantage not intended under the rules or endangers player safety should be disallowed.

When and where do you gentlemen conduct your pregame inspection of equipment? What procedures should I follow as the umpire in conducting this inspection? I would like to follow the same routine before and during every game. Seems like this is an area that is continuing to become more important each year.

[Edited by Mike Simonds on Aug 24th, 2002 at 09:28 PM]

[Matt-MI]

I usually do it when our crew introduces ourselves to the coaches. While R is talking with the coach I have a quick look at the players while they warm up. If something cathes my eye I go check it out. I also check for any casts or other such items at this time also.
It was brought up at our state rules meeting that a company is selling gloves that have a webbing between the thumb and the index finger(kind of like a baseball glove). They said these gloves have the NFHS tag on them but that only pertains to the tackiness.

[Theisey]

I think the NF and probably the NCAA should reconsider what the certifcation label means.
I did a little searching back prior years (like to 1993) where all there was in the rules was "note: beginning with the 1994 season, the use of sticky, adhesive, tacky gloves will be restricted" and in another rule "the use of penalty colored gloves is considered illegal equipment".

The label portion of the rule appeared in 1994. All the words about sticky, adhesive and tacky were removed and replaced with some ambiguous statment about voluntary compliance to some test specifications.
So what does that mean?

The NF reworded the rule some more in 1995 and added a note to the rule stating that there must be seperate sections for each finger and thumb.

Dang it all, if that isn't a test specification, then just what the heck is one.

Further more, this manufactucter of these Web like gloves obviously has not looked at the rule as that note is quite specific about seperate sections back as far as 1995.

Tackiness, material type, how glove is secured, color and "webbing" restrictions should be part of the test specs... end of problem. Either you comply with all of these specs or you cannot put a label on your money making gloves.

[GarthB]

The Washington Interscholastic Activites Association has notifed our association, (and presumably, others) that there exists at least one brand of tackified gloves that carry the NFHS label and that we are to IGNORE the label and enforce the rule. No "sticky gloves", even those with the label are to be allowed.

Now then, who explains this to the coach?