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Old Thu Aug 06, 2009, 05:23am
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How did he/you manage to get audio of the on-field stuff? Is that coming from the video camera that recorded the video? Was that deliberate? If so, it is a bit "NFL filmish" isn't it? Hopefully, like most folks who see and hear themselves on video, the R learned from this.
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Old Thu Aug 06, 2009, 07:48am
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In his webcast he does some work to basically justify not calling the hurdle to some extent as well as talk about the tone and volume of his voice by saying he wasn't yelling or even talking loud enough for the players to hear. However the bad part I take from this is how he phrased his displeasure of the call. He said, "We're not call that." As opposed to, "That was not a hurdle." There is a mile between those two. One says that even if there was a foul we are not going to call it while the other says that the action did not meet the requirements of the definition.

His comments about the state interpreiter said that another play showed a worse action that should not have been called a hurdle. Well what I saw was a player jump with his knees leading the way and a lineman move over toward him. The "hurdler" tried to jump between players and not over a player. The interpreiter says that the lineman is not vertical enough to call this. I would say what matters is the position of the hurdlee when the "hurdler" commits to his act and not if the hurdlee is straight enough with jumped. I still say that the original play was a hurdle and the example play was not.
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Old Thu Aug 06, 2009, 09:18am
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How did he/you manage to get audio of the on-field stuff? Is that coming from the video camera that recorded the video? Was that deliberate? If so, it is a bit "NFL filmish" isn't it? Hopefully, like most folks who see and hear themselves on video, the R learned from this.
We knew someone that is apart of a movie production company (or something like that) and is also an official, and the WH paid for two individuals to tape and run the audio during the game. I do not know exactly what it cost them, but he wanted to use this as a training video or examples of how officials communicate with each other. So all the stuff you are hearing on the tape was not apart of a public broadcast. It was used for the WH to show examples of the crew interacting along with some game tape.

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Old Mon Aug 17, 2009, 04:03pm
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We knew someone that is apart of a movie production company (or something like that) and is also an official, and the WH paid for two individuals to tape and run the audio during the game. I do not know exactly what it cost them, but he wanted to use this as a training video or examples of how officials communicate with each other. So all the stuff you are hearing on the tape was not apart of a public broadcast. It was used for the WH to show examples of the crew interacting along with some game tape.

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Looks like he did not get a very good video to train with. I don't see any communication or discussion going on, just dictating by the referee. As a wing, I make the call I see. I will discuss it with my crew if there is some disagreement and then I should decide whether to pick up the flag. If my Referee on my crew acted like this Referee did, he would be looking for a new wing. To just blatantly say we are not going to call a foul that is clearly a foul is unacceptable. He did not even get any input from the other officials and made his mind up before he even got together with the rest of the crew.
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Old Wed Aug 19, 2009, 07:53am
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Jeff:

Cool site! I appreciate seeing the workings of other crews.

As for the hurdling call, I can see both sides of the argument. In the strictest interpretation of the rule, it's a foul. But, let's keep in mind why the rule is in place. I've been taught the rule is there as a protection for the runner. If he attempts to hurdle a defender who has feet on the ground and in position to stand as the runner hurdles, the runner is in grave danger of being flipped over and landing on his head.

In this video, the runner, IMO, has no chance of being up-ended. I can see why your WH wanted to pick up the flag. That being said, I'm not a big fan of how he handled it. He really gave it to you pretty hard. Right out of the box, he's calling you out. Not cool.

However, I don't get the feeling the WH is questioning the interpretation. I believe he is afraid of the call. That's an unacceptable reason for not enforcing the rule.
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