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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 12:28pm
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm wondering where this whole "gifted athletes" thing comes from and the semi-veiled suggestion that the widebody big numbers somehow don't fit that description. I've seen some very gifted players at those positions that simply dominate the game.
Sometimes "sensitivity" can get kind of silly. The only semi-veiled suggestion exists deep in your mind. As a former Center (which is what "Snappers" were call many years ago) there was no intent to discredit or slight interior linemen.

I don't know what your problem is daggo66, but I doubt you're anyway near competent to correct my recollections of what the reasoning given for the numbering exception was when it was introduced. Congratulations on being brief, now only if that prevented you from being wrong.
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 02:44pm
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I gave up looking for "gifted athlete" in Rule 2 or the index.

It must be in someone's imagination and fits in with their vagaries of explanation. My guess is that it won't be in the new rule book either.

My take on the numbering exception was that it allowed faster players to be on the line and give better punt coverage. Maybe a reputable coach could tell us about that.

As for the rule change, I will wait for the NFHS rule book to come out before trying to understand wordage which none of us have seen. Maybe it will be in the Redding NFHS book which is coming out next month.

Was I brief?

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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 05:02pm
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For the Record

The scrimmage kick formation numbering exception was added to the NFHS Rules Book in 1982.
The rationale was to eliminate the need for pull over type jerseys which were considered unsafe.



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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 06:05pm
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The scrimmage kick formation numbering exception was added to the NFHS Rules Book in 1982.
The rationale was to eliminate the need for pull over type jerseys which were considered unsafe. 31 Words
Forgive me, grasshopper, but the pull over jerseys were being used to allow players who were regularly positioned as backs, ends and defensive players wearing otherwise eligible numbers to participate, out of position, in scrimmage kick formations. (Granted "gifted athletes" may not have been the best descriptive choice of words. I forgot the extent of nitpicking some will go to.)

Even 31 words, when you don't know what you're talking about, can be too many.
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 08:17pm
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Sometimes "sensitivity" can get kind of silly. The only semi-veiled suggestion exists deep in your mind. As a former Center (which is what "Snappers" were call many years ago) there was no intent to discredit or slight interior linemen.

I don't know what your problem is daggo66, but I doubt you're anyway near competent to correct my recollections of what the reasoning given for the numbering exception was when it was introduced. Congratulations on being brief, now only if that prevented you from being wrong.

True, correcting your recollections would be impossible, as would trying to comprehend the bounds of your narcissism. (17)
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 07:21am
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True, correcting your recollections would be impossible, as would trying to comprehend the bounds of your narcissism. (17)
I guess it's easy to be brief when you don't have to concen youself that what you write actually matters, means anything or serves any purpose.
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 09:26pm
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I guess it's easy to be brief when you don't have to concen youself that what you write actually matters, means anything or serves any purpose.
Thank you for validating my point!
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Old Sun Apr 26, 2009, 10:36pm
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As a former Center (which is what "Snappers" were call many years ago)
As they still are, but the rule book (except possibly in the "formation example" diagram) has never referred to the position by that name -- except in Canadian rules where it was first "centre scrimmager" (or maybe just "one of [whom]", referring to the players of the "scrimmage"), then "snap", then "centre". And with unbalanced lines possible there's all the reason for coaches to abandon that term. And it does seem there's a trend in coaching lately for the term "snapper" to be used more than it used to be.

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