The "Future" of the A 6 + 5

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well at the bottom of the PDF file, there is a reference to Kurt's website. That is the same reference Kurt has posted here and on other sites. And the references are the same Kurt made here. I have no other reason to think this did not come from Kurt. Maybe it was not, but the language and statements are very similar to what we have seen.

Peace

This is not sufficient evidence, but only suspicious.

Originally Posted by HLin NC

http://www.humphinternet.com/index.htm

This is sufficient evidence.

Odd thing is after I read the documents, I cut out everything after the ".com" in the address bar and hit enter. The page I received was one of those default webserver pages after you've installed a CMS or webserver or such. From that I gathered that I needed to find out what the site was. Not sure why the link didn't work as expected. Thanks!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

This is not sufficient evidence, but only suspicious.

This is sufficient evidence.

I do not think you have to create a conspiracy theory to figure out whose website is responsible. After all the very same reference to the 50 year official was also in the link.

There are also uses of the same logos and the same language.

Peace

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not think you have to create a conspiracy theory to figure out whose website is responsible. After all the very same reference to the 50 year official was also in the link.

There are also uses of the same logos and the same language.

Peace

Logos and language are plagarizable. Heck, I could have created that document in a few hours. Seeing the document as being hosted on the AC's homepage is much more telling. That's all I am saying.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Logos and language are plagarizable. Heck, I could have created that document in a few hours. Seeing the document as being hosted on the AC's homepage is much more telling. That's all I am saying.

OK, you are drinking the Kool-Aid.

Peace

[KurtBryan]

Dear Officials:

Your candor is always appreciated about the various possibilites regarding the future of football, and to the handful of guys who like to name-call, it does make you look very weak.

About the reason I can't comment for now on other items being presented to us by these groups, I gave my word and of course signed the appropriate documents covering that - standard.

More importantly, it is critical to understand, there are a lot more small schools to mid-size schools in America that have made it clear to us they want to be able to Retain the right to use A-11 on any down if they desire.

And, if the NFHS attempts to ban it. Then YES, there are several viable options being presented to us for Any team wanting to use the offense on
1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th down.

I respect the fact some people hate one offense, and love another, and so on.

More importantly, it is a Free country (Thank God), and if a school, group of schools, or segment of schools decide it is better for them to Retain the Ability to use the A-11 if they want to, then good for them.

If not, then good for them too.

There is plenty of room in America for more than one style or brand of football.

* Great 4th quarter tonight, too bad the Cards lost.

Best of luck to you guys in everything you do.

KB

[Ed Hickland]

Originally Posted by KurtBryan

Dear Officials:

...

More importantly, it is critical to understand, there are a lot more small schools to mid-size schools in America that have made it clear to us they want to be able to Retain the right to use A-11 on any down if they desire.

And, if the NFHS attempts to ban it. Then YES, there are several viable options being presented to us for Any team wanting to use the offense on
1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th down.

...

There is plenty of room in America for more than one style or brand of football.

* Great 4th quarter tonight, too bad the Cards lost.

Best of luck to you guys in everything you do.

KB

Never say never. But!

First, I did find one good thing about the A-11, it would reduce the confusion of getting players into the correct number for the position(s) they play.

However, forming a new "league" to replace the stodgy old NFHS is at best a long shot. Consider most schools belong to the state association for all sports and most sports use NFHS rules at the high school level. Colleges recruit at those schools. Players seek to be recruited at those schools. Whole football programs are built around those schools.

As has been pointed out if only a few schools decide to join the cost of travel alone could be a burden to schools already cost conscious budgets. Enough to get push back from most athletic directors.

College recruiters who already focus on a certain set of schools will no doubt pass the A-11 Federation by as being not football. Good players want to get recruited. So, the A-11 Federation becomes alternative football.

Just for some perspective. Soccer is now a major high school sport but that was not always. Thirty-five years ago soccer was only at a handful of schools even with the blessing of NFHS. There was a lot of travel and very little support as it conflicted with football. That has changed with NFHS backing. Imagine if NFHS had not baked the sport.

My last point and this is for Coach Bryan. If you had not publicized the A-11 and just simply run the offense, NFHS would have not had the opportunity to so feverently seek to quash it. When it is ruled illegal what will you have accomplished? You had the approval of the local association. Why not just use what you had rather than seek a wider audience at the risk of having it declared illegal? Once it is illegal you cannot run it at all? If you felt this was best for the players at Piedmont, why did you not leave it within your own confines?

[RMR]

Originally Posted by Ed Hickland

Never say never. But!

First, I did find one good thing about the A-11, it would reduce the confusion of getting players into the correct number for the position(s) they play.

However, forming a new "league" to replace the stodgy old NFHS is at best a long shot. Consider most schools belong to the state association for all sports and most sports use NFHS rules at the high school level. Colleges recruit at those schools. Players seek to be recruited at those schools. Whole football programs are built around those schools.

As has been pointed out if only a few schools decide to join the cost of travel alone could be a burden to schools already cost conscious budgets. Enough to get push back from most athletic directors.

College recruiters who already focus on a certain set of schools will no doubt pass the A-11 Federation by as being not football. Good players want to get recruited. So, the A-11 Federation becomes alternative football.

Just for some perspective. Soccer is now a major high school sport but that was not always. Thirty-five years ago soccer was only at a handful of schools even with the blessing of NFHS. There was a lot of travel and very little support as it conflicted with football. That has changed with NFHS backing. Imagine if NFHS had not baked the sport.

My last point and this is for Coach Bryan. If you had not publicized the A-11 and just simply run the offense, NFHS would have not had the opportunity to so feverently seek to quash it. When it is ruled illegal what will you have accomplished? You had the approval of the local association. Why not just use what you had rather than seek a wider audience at the risk of having it declared illegal? Once it is illegal you cannot run it at all? If you felt this was best for the players at Piedmont, why did you not leave it within your own confines?

You can't make money selling videos if you are flying under the radar.

[kdf5]

Originally Posted by Ed Hickland

Just for some perspective. Soccer is now a major high school sport but that was not always. Thirty-five years ago soccer was only at a handful of schools even with the blessing of NFHS. There was a lot of travel and very little support as it conflicted with football. That has changed with NFHS backing. Imagine if NFHS had not baked the sport.

I don't disagree with that but by and large the rules have remained the same. You haven't had someone like KB say that since the keeper can use his hands the other 10 players on my team are all keepers so they can all use their hands.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

OK, you are drinking the Kool-Aid.

Peace

It's not your fault that you're a technology neophyte.

Take waltjp's post for exmaple. At least he provided info that shows the clearest source of the file.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

It's not your fault that you're a technology neophyte.

Take waltjp's post for exmaple. At least he provided info that shows the clearest source of the file.

LOL!!!!

No, I think the problem is you are not familiar with the way Kurt works and the things he has said in the past on this site and other sites. I did not have to have a direct website to know who was speaking. Then again you were the only one questioning where the information was coming from. That is telling if you ask me.

BTW, here are some comments from the person you are not sure how they feel about this topic.

http://www.nfhs.org/cgi-bin/ultimate...c;f=9;t=004098

Peace

[KurtBryan]

Of course we wrote and had help writing the paper from other coaches. That should not even be a question.