Super Bowl XLIII (43) Crew

[PSU213]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Alternate Referee =
Alternate Umpire =
Alternate Wing =
Alternate Deep Wing =
Alternate Back Judge =

At this point, why doesn't the NFL just go with an entire back up crew? (I guess I should say 'the National Football League' if I ever want to be an NFL employee).

As a side point, has an official ever had to be replaced during an NFL game (injury, illness, etc.)? Just curious

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by PSU213

At this point, why doesn't the NFL just go with an entire back up crew? (I guess I should say 'the National Football League' if I ever want to be an NFL employee).

As a side point, has an official ever had to be replaced during an NFL game (injury, illness, etc.)? Just curious

Alternates to the SB crew are paid either a full game fee, or a half-game fee, and a full game fee if they go into the game. Yes, only 2 more positions would be an entire crew, so why not pay the extra coin? Responsible spending perhaps.

In the AFC final, the HL was replaced near halftime: Carl Johnson replaced Ed Camp (HL) towards the end of the 1st half and remained in for the remainder of the game. Morelli scrambled to the opposite sideline to notify Johnson that Camp was apparently ill/injured after the Ravens touchdown. Immediately after the extra point, Camp gingerly walked off the field and Johnson replaced him. This crew on a very quick turn around without missing a blink. Johnson jumped right in and the game continued smoothly.

[Texas Aggie]

I can't see as needing more than 2 or possibly 3 alternates in any game. One ready to take over for the R, one possibly for the U, and the other for the wings and deep officials.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

I can't see as needing more than 2 or possibly 3 alternates in any game. One ready to take over for the R, one possibly for the U, and the other for the wings and deep officials.

So you want a guy who worked BJ all year to come in and work LJ in the Super Bowl? The NFL's system works great as the backup actually has worked at that position all season.

[Ed Hickland]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

I can't see as needing more than 2 or possibly 3 alternates in any game. One ready to take over for the R, one possibly for the U, and the other for the wings and deep officials.

Ancient history but former head of the referee department Jerry Seeman who at the time was an R replaced a wing official. Think it was Jerry after he took over the department increased the number of alternates.

[JugglingReferee]

What I find interesting is that the responsibilities of the FJ and SJ are virtually identical. I can't imagine what one would do that the other wouldn't, aside some once-a-game procedural differences.

If the second-highest rated FJ graded better than the highest graded SJ, why not use two FJs as the deep wings?

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

...In the AFC final, the HL was replaced near halftime: Carl Johnson replaced Ed Camp (HL) towards the end of the 1st half and remained in for the remainder of the game. Morelli scrambled to the opposite sideline to notify Johnson that Camp was apparently ill/injured after the Ravens touchdown. Immediately after the extra point, Camp gingerly walked off the field and Johnson replaced him. This crew on a very quick turn around without missing a blink. Johnson jumped right in and the game continued smoothly.

REPLY: Update from Ed: Partial tear of Achilles...no surgery necessary...Rest...meds...6-8 weeks of physical therapy...and a Tom Dempsey boot...Dr. expects full recovery.

[JugglingReferee]

That's good news Bob. If the NFL guys are anything like me, the higher level they work, the more they don't want to leave unvoluntarily.

[zm1283]

As usual, the NFL referees are terrible in the Super Bowl. The defensive holding on the Cardinals was flat terrible just now.

The personal foul for roughing the QB against Arizona that gave Pittsburgh the first down was horrible.

The personal foul for roughing the holder was a joke on the field goal.

They missed an obvious block in the back against Pittsburgh on the 100 yard return at the end of the first half.

It was the same way the last time the Steelers were in the Super Bowl.

[TXMike]

Of course they are terrible. They are only the cream of the crop in a system that evaluates officials more closely than in any other pro sport. Probably none of the guys sitting at home wopuld have made that holding call right? Go away fanboy.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by TXMike

Of course they are terrible. They are only the cream of the crop in a system that evaluates officials more closely than in any other pro sport. Probably none of the guys sitting at home wopuld have made that holding call right? Go away fanboy.

I knew I'd get a quick reply out of the "Defend at all costs" crowd. Of course none of you would ever admit that they might have missed a call.

[fljet]

not to mention there was holding on the 100 yd return by #26 of the steelers on Kurt Warner, grabbed his jersey and threw him down

Im sick of watching pittsburgh get all the calls, seems like everytime I watch their game they get all the breaks

[fljet]

caint wait to hear all of the excuses for your boys.

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by zm1283

As usual, the NFL referees are terrible in the Super Bowl. The defensive holding on the Cardinals was flat terrible just now.

The personal foul for roughing the QB against Arizona that gave Pittsburgh the first down was horrible.

The personal foul for roughing the holder was a joke on the field goal.

They missed an obvious block in the back against Pittsburgh on the 100 yard return at the end of the first half.

It was the same way the last time the Steelers were in the Super Bowl.

I don't know what game you're watch rosebud, but that was probably one of the best officiated games of the season.
I thought the RTP call Walt mentioned was a little picky but overall they had a "super" game. Pittsburgh was not given anything and that is coming from someone who does not care for the Steelers.
I do though, care about the game and it was exciting, competitive and superbly officiated.

[aschramm]

I think that a possible reason people think the game was poorly officiated was because there were so many penalties and it caused the game to slow down immensely. However, all of their penalty calls were completely justified.