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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 11:02am
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Get Away Signal

I cannot remember the game and was listening on the radio, so I did not see it, but this is what the announcers described:

The receiver gave a "get away from the ball" signal on a short punt, then fielded the ball on a bounce and started running. The whistle sounded and a flag was thrown. The Referee gave the following announcement (to the best of my memory), "There is no foul for delay of the game, but by rule the ball is dead immediately upon possession when a get away signal is given."

First time I have seen this. Is it a relatively new rule?
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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 11:15am
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I cannot remember the game and was listening on the radio, so I did not see it, but this is what the announcers described:

The receiver gave a "get away from the ball" signal on a short punt, then fielded the ball on a bounce and started running. The whistle sounded and a flag was thrown. The Referee gave the following announcement (to the best of my memory), "There is no foul for delay of the game, but by rule the ball is dead immediately upon possession when a get away signal is given."

First time I have seen this. Is it a relatively new rule?
I found it in about 10 seconds in the NCAA book online.

Google search for: NCAA football rules. First link is the PDF rulebook. Search that for "get away".

It's a good rule and actually makes sense.
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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 01:25pm
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I cannot remember the game and was listening on the radio, so I did not see it, but this is what the announcers described:

The receiver gave a "get away from the ball" signal on a short punt, then fielded the ball on a bounce and started running. The whistle sounded and a flag was thrown. The Referee gave the following announcement (to the best of my memory), "There is no foul for delay of the game, but by rule the ball is dead immediately upon possession when a get away signal is given."

First time I have seen this. Is it a relatively new rule?
That was the Music City Bowl - that was a good job by the crew communicating and not enforcing a penalty on that play. I thought that the CUSA crew did a good job in that game. The R did an especially good job on the microphone with his explanations (including the play in question).
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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 01:46pm
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i am interested to hear how officials using fed rules handle this same situation? would you kill the play as soon as the player has possession of the ball? would you let the play continue? would like to hear different views on this.
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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 02:59pm
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There are only 3 types of Fair Catch signals defined in the NF code; Valid, Invalid and Illegal. The issue becomes where is the line between valid and invalid, and much as we'd like, it's not a straight line.

The receiver gets to decide when there will be a signal, the kickers are responsible to respect the signal when it's given correctly. Often the issue boils down to was the signal given clear enough to convey the receiver's intention and was it given so that the kicker had a reasonable opportunity to respond to it.

I would suggest that the vast majority of technically invald signals are not flagged because the kickers recognized what the receiver's intent was, and had enough time to properly respond and avoid any contact. Most smart officials are quick to recognize the signal as valid, since the intended message was received by the party it was directed to, and kill the play immediately avoiding most problems.

The difficulty arises when there is contact. Then the technicality of the signal, and the time frame in which it was given, may be held to a more precise level and a judgment has to be made whether the signal was actually sufficient, or not. Either way there is likely a flag, the question becomes is it for KCI or an Invalid Signal, which is a judgment unique to each situation.
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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 03:49pm
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My crew has never had an invalid signal. My BJ will instruct the deep receiver as to what a proper fair catch signal is each and every time we are in a punt situation.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 12:46pm
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The "no get away" signal is a brand new ncaa rule this year.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 01:31pm
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My crew has never had an invalid signal. My BJ will instruct the deep receiver as to what a proper fair catch signal is each and every time we are in a punt situation.
We had one a few years ago. The BJ gave good instructions but the receiver's hand never got above his chest. Sometimes they just won't do it right, no matter how much help we give them.
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