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My crew has never had an invalid signal. My BJ will instruct the deep receiver as to what a proper fair catch signal is each and every time we are in a punt situation.
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the WHAT?
![]() The rule did not change, however the AR as written in 2007 changed in 2008 to now classify the "get away" signal as an invalid signal and therefore the ball becomes dead when recovered by any team as it normally would. |
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Thanks, that was my understanding as well. I thought all along that nothing had changed with the rule but that an interpretation had been issued based on philosophy in the form of an approved ruling.
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We had one a few years ago. The BJ gave good instructions but the receiver's hand never got above his chest. Sometimes they just won't do it right, no matter how much help we give them.
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if you have a situation in high school football under fed rules where the returner gives that "get away" signal, and then retrieves the ball and starts to run what would you call? i would like to hear different opinions on this exact situation.
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I think I'd get out of his way. As long as his 'get-away' signal couldn't be mistaken for a fair catch signal I have nothing. Play on.
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Did you treat it as an invalid fair catch signal?
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I am sure alot on here will not like what we did.
We awarded R first down at the spot in which they secured possession (end of the kick), we did not penalize R for an invalid fair catch and advancing the ball. We felt that since K believed the signal to be a fair catch signal, peeled away from the receiver and stopped, the proper call was to kill the play and not penalize. We informed both coaches that an invalid signal was given and where the ball was going to be placed. Neither had a problem with it. |
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would someone please answer my question? |
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Let me try again, there are only 3 signals; Fair Catch, Invalid Fair Catch and Illegal Fair Catch (which applies only to the runner). There is no such thing as a "get away signal" under the NF code.
If a player invents some sort of signal to warn his teammates to stay away from the ball, unless it meets the requirements of a Fair Catch signal, or in the judgment of the covering official could be interpreted as an invalid FC signal, it's nothing. Now what kind of hand or arm movement might be interpreted as a possible invalid FC signal may vary between officials. As always rational, sound judgment is the deciding factor. |
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waltjp did, and then ajmc did.
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