Two players in Motion

[bigjohn]

ART. 6 . . . After a huddle or shift all 11 players of A shall come to an absolute
stop and shall remain stationary simultaneously without movement of hands,
feet, head or body for at least one second before the snap.
illegal shift (Art. 6) – (S20);

I don't see anything in this rule about motion.

[bigjohn]

7.2.7 Situation: The quarterback by voice command has signaled his teammates to assume a set position while he is standing upright behind the center. The quarterback steps forward and places his hands under the center to receive the snap: (a) at the instant the snap is made; or (b) which is made after he is motionless, but prior to one second having elapsed; or (c) which is made after he is motionless for one second; or (d) which is made after he is motionless for one second, but while he is stepping backward with one foot as the snap is made.
Ruling: In (a), it is illegal motion. In (b), it is an illegal shift. In (c), it is legal. In (d), it is legal unless a teammate is also in motion at the snap.

Is (d) illegal motion or illegal shift if a teammate is in motion??

[bigjohn]

Rule 2 SECTION 39
says nothing about motion here either!

SHIFT
A shift is the action of one or more offensive players who, after a huddle or after
taking set positions, move to a new set position before the ensuing snap.

[Blue37]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

7.2.7 Situation: The quarterback by voice command has signaled his teammates to assume a set position while he is standing upright behind the center. The quarterback steps forward and places his hands under the center to receive the snap: (a) at the instant the snap is made; or (b) which is made after he is motionless, but prior to one second having elapsed; or (c) which is made after he is motionless for one second; or (d) which is made after he is motionless for one second, but while he is stepping backward with one foot as the snap is made.
Ruling: In (a), it is illegal motion. In (b), it is an illegal shift. In (c), it is legal. In (d), it is legal unless a teammate is also in motion at the snap.

Is (d) illegal motion or illegal shift if a teammate is in motion??

7-2-7 Only one A player may be in motion at the snap
PENALTY: illegal motion (S20)

note: I deleted the non applicable parts to save space.

[bigjohn]

7.2.6 Situation B: Backs A1 and A2 simultaneously move to new backfield positions prior to the snap. In less than one second after both are stationary: (a) A3 goes in motion and is in motion at the snap; or (b) the ball is snapped.
Ruling: Illegal shift in both (a) and (b). Following a huddle or a shift, all 11 players of A must come to a complete stop and must remain stationary simultaneously for at least one second before the snap or before a player goes in motion. (2-39)

[Theisey]

If it makes you feel better, I would announce it as an illegal shift.

[bigjohn]

Thanks you, I just want to know where everyone stands on this call and why! I see rule coverage for illegal motion and case play coverage for illegal shift so it is a bit confusing. Bring back Illegal procedure!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Thanks you, I just want to know where everyone stands on this call and why! I see rule coverage for illegal motion and case play coverage for illegal shift so it is a bit confusing. Bring back Illegal procedure!

Illegal procedure never was an illegal shift or illegal motion. It had nothing to do with those two.