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Old Mon Oct 20, 2008, 08:38pm
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Dumbest thing was I had someone complain that entering the NZ is not a dead ball encroachment foul (Federation rules). This guy is thinking NCAA and NFL style live ball foul. I told him that it was a dead ball foul and he said that it must have been a new rule. I told him it was changed for the 1975 season. I'm not sure if that is correct but that is what it says on this website.

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Old Mon Oct 20, 2008, 08:50pm
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High School Frosh game.

Coach was mad that too many players left to go downfield on a punt.
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Old Mon Oct 20, 2008, 10:11pm
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High School Frosh game.

Coach was mad that too many players left to go downfield on a punt.
Just curious - there is no restriction to when players can go down field on a punt, correct? Is it like the NCAA rule or the NFL rule?

Thanks!
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Old Mon Oct 20, 2008, 10:43pm
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Working with a whiney coach, who asked for an explanation. I gave him a brief, polite, exactly correct ruling. He replied, "It was still a lousy call and you still stink". Told him I'd move the ball 15 yards further downwind to see if it helped.
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Old Mon Oct 20, 2008, 11:00pm
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After we penalized his team for intentional grounding on a pass that was nowhere near anybody offense or defense and he argued his TE was in the area, the coach yelled "I'm going to murder you on the Internet." This is in reference to our state's process for rating officials for playoff advancement. It is done once a year online and any coach can vote for any crew. In our post-game we decided the coach probably deserved an opportunity to re-state his opinion (give him enough rope to hang himself) or an instant flag.
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Old Mon Oct 20, 2008, 11:41pm
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bison, I am a bit of a red @$$ but I might've considered making that not only a USC but flagarant as well. I take a very low opinion of a coach that thinks he can threaten us like that.

MNBlue...sorry to hear that. That is horrible.

The worst I've heard this year was during a youth game while working LJ. I had a coach in my ear from the first quarter about their receiver being held...I didn't see it once but it was supposedly there. Later in the quarter I had a spot on their opponent's ball carrier that they thought was a bit too generous. An assistant got in my ear and quietly said "You're just not seeing anything today." What made the comment worse was the way he said it with a whine, almost as if he were a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum.

The most amusing comment this year so far was during a freshman game. I was working at HL, and had a big name school on my sideline. You more than likely have heard of them. Well the coach didn't like my PF call against his team for a decleater 25 yards behind the play. He asked me "What if we had run a reverse?!"

My response "Well coach you didn't, the play was long gone."

His last word "Oh come on, you wouldn't have called that in a varsity game!!!"

Never mind that I have but I didn't bother telling him that.
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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 12:10am
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Never had another word.......

Coach didn't like my ruling on a judgement call. Made a remark that it looked like we were going to have a long night as this would be a battle of our wits. Told him that would never happen. He foolishly asked why. Told him I never fight a battle of wits with anyone unarmed. Never had another word from him.

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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 09:02pm
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After we penalized his team for intentional grounding on a pass that was nowhere near anybody offense or defense and he argued his TE was in the area, the coach yelled "I'm going to murder you on the Internet." This is in reference to our state's process for rating officials for playoff advancement. It is done once a year online and any coach can vote for any crew. In our post-game we decided the coach probably deserved an opportunity to re-state his opinion (give him enough rope to hang himself) or an instant flag.
Anyone who threatens our rating (or schedule) gets ejected. Period. Ejected in a baseball game, a flagrant technical in a basketball game, flagrant USC in football. He may "murder me on the Internet" but he's not going to be around to finish the game.

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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 09:47pm
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Anyone who threatens our rating (or schedule) gets ejected. Period. Ejected in a baseball game, a flagrant technical in a basketball game, flagrant USC in football. He may "murder me on the Internet" but he's not going to be around to finish the game.
In hindsight I think we wish we would have done it. We've talked to other crews who had similar issues with this coach. Especially in this case since it was yelled from the sideline to the middle of the field and not just something said to the wing official next to him.
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After we penalized his team for intentional grounding on a pass that was nowhere near anybody offense or defense and he argued his TE was in the area, the coach yelled "I'm going to murder you on the Internet." This is in reference to our state's process for rating officials for playoff advancement. It is done once a year online and any coach can vote for any crew. In our post-game we decided the coach probably deserved an opportunity to re-state his opinion (give him enough rope to hang himself) or an instant flag.
That's automatic in any sport.
A coach can rate a crew he hasn't seen during the season?
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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 11:37pm
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That's automatic in any sport.
A coach can rate a crew he hasn't seen during the season?
Every school gets a ballot with every crew that applied for the playoffs. They can vote for every crew if they want. They can vote for no crews if they want. They can vote for crews that have never worked their games. They are supposed to vote for the crews that worked their games the past 2 years but since schools contract their own officials, there is no validation of schools and crews.

Once the state finals are over we get a report listing the schools that voted for us and the votes we got (scale of 1 to 5) but those values are not mapped. We also see what our average is compared to other crews so we have an idea of where our ranking fell. Most of the schools on our list are schools where we have worked but there are some I've never seen in my 7 years.

This is such a strange process I don't think I could make it up. We are working to change it and the state is listening. At leat this year they required all officials working the second round and beyond to be certified.
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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 11:39pm
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hollow threat

We had something not nearly so vile, but along the same lines.

(First of all, if coaches are allowed to ding officials because they don't agree with calls, then that system is FUBAR in the first place.)

We had a private school from several hours away playing one we service. I meet with the coach and give him a list of officials, out of courtesy.

In the first half there's a pass interference call -- I don't remember if it was a call or no-call -- that this coach didn't agree with. He starts screaming "I'm reporting you. I have your name."

All I did was laugh because this was a completely hollow, meaningless threat. He has no authority to call anyone to complain about a judgment call. Even if he knew whom to call, the call wouldn't be well received or given any credence. So all he really did was prove himself to be an a$$.
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Old Wed Oct 22, 2008, 07:07am
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Just curious - there is no restriction to when players can go down field on a punt, correct? Is it like the NCAA rule or the NFL rule?

Thanks!
Must be a NFL rules that this coach was refering to. I told him that the limit was 10, I don't think he got it.
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Dumbest thing was I had someone complain that entering the NZ is not a dead ball encroachment foul (Federation rules). This guy is thinking NCAA and NFL style live ball foul. I told him that it was a dead ball foul and he said that it must have been a new rule. I told him it was changed for the 1975 season. I'm not sure if that is correct but that is what it says on this website.

http://football.refs.org/rules/NFrules1.html
Now that is Funny (with a capital F)! To actaully give the year that a rule changed AND said year was that long ago.
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