Field Goal Coverage

[Ed Hickland]

Originally Posted by Theisey

Ed, does your association area (LI?) do what the want to or do they do what the state office says regarding mechanics?
I'm not asking in a snotty way, I'm just trying to determine if this may be something that may eventually work it's way into the other sectional areas.
Which of course at this time do exactly what the NFHS book says to do as that's what the state says to follow.. except to use white only bean bags.
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I must have missed something here, but the last I checked you would wear blue bean bags under NF Mechanics. I do not know for sure, my state stopped using the NF Mechanics about 3 years ago.

Peace

Inside joke! Blue bean bags are verboten in New York.

As I understand the State recommends the standard mechanic but our Association wants to use the U under mechanic.

BTW. My BJ has a white bean bag with blue tape around it to mark end of the kick. It ain't blue!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

That's fine, but who's watching the line play? I know I'm not (as the R). I'm watching for a false start until the snap and then I'm watching the kicker and holder and nothing else.

What makes a wing to my back so important we want to leave the middle of the field open?

Local associations shouldn't be making these decisions, was my point. If the state wants to use their own mechanics, fine, good on them.

I am not an advocate of that mechanic. But to suggest that we only have to follow what the NF says, when the NF does not change with the times or improve on old mechanics, then I can see why states would want to find something else. The NF is not God and they certainly cannot tell each jurisdiction how to officiate the game. We are not talking about rules here, we are talking about mechanics. There are all kinds of situations that have changed in the game and to do something that was done only when no one passed the ball and everyone was option is not a good idea if you ask me.

Peace

[Theisey]

Just my opinion, but I see no sense even discussing mechanics in forums like this because there are just to many variations of doing the same thing.
Now I see that even within my state, there is an association unique way of doing something that the rest of the state doesn't do.

My opinion again, but if a mechanic in the NFHS book is as has been stated is outdated, then get the darn thing changed just like if it was a rule. Mechanics really are rules, they are rules in how to officiate the game. We should be doing it the same no matter what state you are in and no matter what association within a state you are in.
It's called consistency.

Every year, NF changes things in their (our) mechanics manual, so don't think they can't adapt. Someone has to propose change(s) and follow through until implemented so the rest of us can use it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Theisey

Just my opinion, but I see no sense even discussing mechanics in forums like this because there are just to many variations of doing the same thing.
Now I see that even within my state, there is an association unique way of doing something that the rest of the state doesn't do.

My opinion again, but if a mechanic in the NFHS book is as has been stated is outdated, then get the darn thing changed just like if it was a rule. Mechanics really are rules, they are rules in how to officiate the game. We should be doing it the same no matter what state you are in and no matter what association within a state you are in.
It's called consistency.

Every year, NF changes things in their (our) mechanics manual, so don't think they can't adapt. Someone has to propose change(s) and follow through until implemented so the rest of us can use it.

That sounds great, but the NF is not going to field calls about missed plays because of mechanics. Or if a play was not covered in the suburbs of Chicago, I do not think a person in Florida is going to care much.

BTW, the NF does not care what states do mechanically and I have been told that by people in the NF directly. Mary Struckoff who is the NF Basketball Rulebook Editor and has some other significant roles with the NF, came to a conference in our state and discussed many things the NF was trying to implement and she made it very clear the NF does not try to influence mechanics with their membership. She even gave a couple of examples where states had mechanics that were so far away from the NF Manuals, that they did everything to convince their state, but there was nothing they could do about them using such mechanics.

Three years ago my state (which is a 100% membership state with the NF, whatever that means) created our own mechanics. The IHSA no longer sends out the NF Official's Manual in any sport. In football specifically the IHSA created all their mechanics on a PowerPoint Presentation. Now we use basic NF Mechanics, but there are many differences that are based on coverage mistakes that have been seen at the State Final level. One of the major differences we use is how the wings flow down field during pass plays. The NF suggests that we go down field 5-7 yards when you read pass. Well our state noticed that that mechanic was not putting officials in the best places to see plays or they would be completely out of position to cover pass plays. Our state wants the wings to flow downfield only after all eligible receivers have crossed our faces (on the wings) before going down field. Most HS passes are less than 10 yards and it was easy to cover most plays near the LOS. That is just one major change and there are others that were changed because of what happen in big time games because the NF either did not address an issue or what was used was considered outdated. I know that when they would send those books to us, nothing would be different. And even when there was a change, the diagram never changed. The same thing applied to the other sports as well and coverages have improved across the board.

Peace

[FTVMartin]

Michigan created it's owm mechanics book last year that looked a lot like the NF book but this year they made several changes. Most changes had to do with the kicking game. As a U, I spot the ball and tell the defense not to hit the snapper before heading back under the post. I am still responsible for the protection of the snapper.

[Ed Hickland]

One of the great things about the Internet and forums such as these you get to hear what others around the country and at different levels are doing. Given, some information is good and some is bad and the fact is it is not the official word.

For instance, on this very forum someone suggested using a blue bean bag to mark the end of the kick spot. An excellent idea, I thought, because as a referee if I come down and see two bean bags and one is blue there is no need to ask the question about where the kick ended.

My state association says, no way, no blue bean bags. So, I improvise!

The game undergoes constant changes and the Official's Manual is a guideline plus guidance from the state and local associations. You would hope that officials utilize all avenues to learn the game and share experiences. With that I might add this forum has been extremely helpful in the adaption for me and my crew in going from 4 to 5 man mechanics