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Old Thu Sep 04, 2008, 11:23am
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Long ago I was taught there are certain biblical certainties we must accept, even when there may be reasonable doubt. Among them are; all lines are perfectly straight. If you touch a line, you've touched it, even if it looks bowed to the naked eye. If you haven't touched it, you haven't touched it.

Unless there is an OBVIOUS discrepancy, all 10 yard lines are 10 yards apart. Life, unfortunately is nor perfect, nor are the markings on many football fields, but the game, like life, must go on.

The act of measuring is something that is done, solely, to assist the Referee in determining whether or not the LTG has been reached. Neither team has any right to demand a measurement. Most Referee's will use the available tool of a measurement when they have any doubt whatsoever if the LTG has, or has not, been reached, but that is entirely the Referee's option.
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Old Thu Sep 04, 2008, 11:32am
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Long ago I was taught there are certain biblical certainties we must accept, even when there may be reasonable doubt. Among them are; all lines are perfectly straight. If you touch a line, you've touched it, even if it looks bowed to the naked eye. If you haven't touched it, you haven't touched it.

Unless there is an OBVIOUS discrepancy, all 10 yard lines are 10 yards apart. Life, unfortunately is nor perfect, nor are the markings on many football fields, but the game, like life, must go on.

The act of measuring is something that is done, solely, to assist the Referee in determining whether or not the LTG has been reached. Neither team has any right to demand a measurement. Most Referee's will use the available tool of a measurement when they have any doubt whatsoever if the LTG has, or has not, been reached, but that is entirely the Referee's option.
Aren't lines, by definition, straight?

A line can be described as an ideal zero-width, infinitely long, perfectly straight curve (the term curve in mathematics includes "straight curves") containing an infinite number of points. In Euclidean geometry, exactly one line can be found that passes through any two points. The line provides the shortest connection between the points.
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Old Thu Sep 04, 2008, 11:54am
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In Euclidean geometry....
Can't wait till I get that sort of situation in my next game, so I can explain to a Captain or Coach that I am giving the O a 1st Down because of Euclidean geometry.....

But seriously, when I work the chains, I make sure my WH doesn't do a measure in that sort of situation by reminding him we started on (eg) the 20.

I also have a problem with HL's who allow the chain crew to be lazy and set up 6 feet back rather than set up on the sideline for accuracy, then move back for safety. If I'm assessing, that's a surefire ding on the HL.....
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Old Mon Sep 08, 2008, 11:29am
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The line provides the shortest connection between the points.
Exception - Wormhole

Pronunciation: \ˈwərm-ˌhōl\

Function: noun

Date: 1593

1 : a hole or passage burrowed by a worm

2 : a hypothetical structure of space-time envisioned as a long thin tunnel connecting points that are separated in space and time
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Old Mon Sep 08, 2008, 11:37am
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Exception - Wormhole

Pronunciation: \ˈwərm-ˌhōl\

Function: noun

Date: 1593

1 : a hole or passage burrowed by a worm

2 : a hypothetical structure of space-time envisioned as a long thin tunnel connecting points that are separated in space and time
Note: the second definition probably does NOT date from 1593.

Also, I think JR explicitly referred to Euclidean space, where his claim is correct and is exceptionless. Whatever space-time is, it's almost certainly not Euclidean.
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Note: the second definition probably does NOT date from 1593.

Also, I think JR explicitly referred to Euclidean space, where his claim is correct and is exceptionless. Whatever space-time is, it's almost certainly not Euclidean.
Who can bend space time? Hiro Nakamura.
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Old Mon Sep 08, 2008, 02:50pm
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Who can bend space time? Hiro Nakamura.
See the baseball forum, search for rising fastball...
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Now you've done it...
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Old Mon Sep 08, 2008, 05:20pm
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Aren't lines, by definition, straight?

A line can be described as an ideal zero-width, infinitely long, perfectly straight curve (the term curve in mathematics includes "straight curves") containing an infinite number of points. In Euclidean geometry, exactly one line can be found that passes through any two points. The line provides the shortest connection between the points.
There has been way too much freaking math on this forum today.
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Old Mon Sep 08, 2008, 08:21pm
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There has been way too much freaking math on this forum today.
By "too much," do you mean twice as much as there should be? 3.5 times as much?
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