Double Foul

[wwcfoa43]

Originally Posted by Theisey

How do the other rule codes handle this specific case play?
NFL: I don't know.
NCAA: the fouls offset and the down is replayed.

Simple and easy to enforce.

For NCAA, I was only going by what another poster put and that was to allow one team to decline.

For NFL, I just checked and they will also replay the down.

For Canada, they will enforce both fouls from the point of enforcement of the first foul. Also, they will allow declination by one team.

So if the other poster was wrong about NCAA then I guess it is just the Canadian rule set that has better equity in this situation. And yes, it is slightly more complicated to enforce. It is not that bad though.

[ajmc]

I don't know whether it's a question of some guys don't get it, or just that they don't want to get it. Football is a game, a very popular game, not a morals play. Like any other game there are rules and if the rules get too complicated and too involved thay can take the enjoyment out of the game.

Trying to set the rules to perfectly balance every conceivable possibility is a fools errand that serves nobody and detracts from the game. Current rules cover 99% possibilities, and although some seem determined to focus on the 1%, or part thereof, that is currently handled by an extra measure of judgment rather than a specific written instruction, you're spitting into the wind.

Everybody doesn't have to agree with the rules, they should however, be aware of them and accept that they must conform to them.

[OverAndBack]

And, eventually, they change anyway. If something is way out of whack, usually someone has noticed and they get around to closing the loophole or whatever.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Kmet

In a high school game Team A has the ball first and ten on their own 20. A23 runs to B's 20 where B46 yanks him down by the face mask. During the run A65 bocked B56 in the back at B's 35.

CANADIAN RULING:

• Flag for UR on Team B for the facemask.
• Flag for blocking from the rear on Team A. For this foul, we need to know where the ball was when the ilelgal block happened.

The flag for the illegal block was likely before the facemask, so that becomes the point of application (POA) for both fouls, because B will not decline this A foul.

Result: yardage for the fouls balance as both were 15 yards. AFD for Team A. POA is that of the illegal block, so therefore Team A 1D/10 @ this POA - which is Point Ball Held of the first foul.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Ed Hickland

Football is unique in that play is allowed to continue even though a foul has occurred.

Unique?? No way! In most sports I can think of at least some play continues following fouls. There are some where play is killed immediately -- court-and-rally sports such as handball, tennis, badminton -- because continued play would obviously be futile. There are others where the players take turns such as croquet & pool where you enforce immediately because it's no big deal to "interrupt" play. But rugby, lacrosse, hockey, baseball, racing, basketball and other continuous action sports all allow continuation of play.

Robert

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by wwcfoa43

For NCAA, I was only going by what another poster put and that was to allow one team to decline.

That was true at one time, apparently not now.