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Old Thu Apr 17, 2008, 08:45pm
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3rd and 15 for A at A's 25 yd line. A81 runs a sideline pattern and steps on the sideline for 3 steps, returns to the field at the 43 yd line, catches a pass and is tackled at the 47 yd line. What do we have, and how is it enforced?
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Old Thu Apr 17, 2008, 10:22pm
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NFHS: Illegal participation on A81. Since this is a loose ball play, the basic spot is the previous spot. 3rd and 30 at the A 12.5 yard line. I think?
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Old Thu Apr 17, 2008, 10:30pm
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NFHS: Illegal participation on A81. Since this is a loose ball play, the basic spot is the previous spot. 3rd and 30 at the A 12.5 yard line. I think?

Sounds right to me.
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Old Fri Apr 18, 2008, 05:28am
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NCAA: it's just a loss of down from previous spot.
Illegal touching A81 (as long as he went out voluntarily and was not forced out).
4rd and 15 for A at A's 25 yd line
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Old Fri Apr 18, 2008, 11:45am
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Actually enforcement would be from the spot of the foul at the 43 where he re-entered the field, would it not? I remember we are supposed to have our flag at the spot he re-entered.
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Old Fri Apr 18, 2008, 12:41pm
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The spot of the foul is where the player returns inbounds (Case Book:9.6.1.a), but the basic spot, for enforcing a penalty for a foul occuring during a loose ball play is the previous spot, NF 10.4.1)
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Old Thu May 01, 2008, 08:08am
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NFHS: Illegal participation on A81. Since this is a loose ball play, the basic spot is the previous spot. 3rd and 30 at the A 12.5 yard line. I think?
It would actually be 3rd and 27.5 yard's to go, if the basic spot was the 25?
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Old Thu May 01, 2008, 10:34am
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It would actually be 3rd and 27.5 yard's to go, if the basic spot was the 25?
Yeah it would be, at least I got the ball placement correct. Nice catch!
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2008, 01:25pm
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3rd and 15 for A at A's 25 yd line. A81 runs a sideline pattern and steps on the sideline for 3 steps, returns to the field at the 43 yd line, catches a pass and is tackled at the 47 yd line. What do we have, and how is it enforced?
CANADIAN RULING:

A81 stepping OOB is not one of the four valid reasons to touch OOB during a live play. This is illegal participation. Official should flag it.

The four valid reasons for being OOB are:
  • being blocked to OOB
  • trying to tackle/block an opponent, missing, and having your momentum take you OOB
  • fielding a kick
  • slipping on the field and touching OOB
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