Mike Carey

[OverAndBack]

Fair enough.

That's why those guys are in the NFL and I'm in the AZFOA.

[rulesmaven]

I was at the game and, for what it's worth, there was :01 on the stadium clock after the second to last play.

One very interesting play on the Giants winning TD drive. 4th and 1, and Giants runner is downed in bounds. Carey stops the clock, and it looks like there is going to be a measurement. Almost immediately, though, he gets to the spotted ball and eyeballs it and signals to the chains to move, and they start to do so. Takes him a while to signal first down. There is no measurement, from what I saw. (Although I was pretty high up in the upper deck.)

The stadium clock didn't restart until the U made the ball ready to play. I guess that's what would have happened if there had been a measurement, but there was not. Should Carey have rewound the clock once he decided he didn't want a measurement, or, once he stopped the clock, is it correct to wait until ready to play?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rulesmaven

The stadium clock didn't restart until the U made the ball ready to play. I guess that's what would have happened if there had been a measurement, but there was not. Should Carey have rewound the clock once he decided he didn't want a measurement, or, once he stopped the clock, is it correct to wait until ready to play?

Let me first qualify my statement by saying that NFL Timing rules are very different than college and high school rules. Unless there is some major difference, I will address what I am sure about.

If the clock was stopped because the ball was close to a first down, under rules outside of the NFL, you would start the clock on the ready for play. Normally when you stop the clock when the first down is very close, you are either going to measure or award a first down. There was no measurement so if Carey waited until the ready for play to start the clock that sounds correct to me. The NFL does things differently like stopping the clock after a QB sack, but most of their starting and stopping the clock procedures are the same as every other level.

Peace

[rulesmaven]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Let me first qualify my statement by saying that NFL Timing rules are very different than college and high school rules. Unless there is some major difference, I will address what I am sure about.

If the clock was stopped because the ball was close to a first down, under rules outside of the NFL, you would start the clock on the ready for play. Normally when you stop the clock when the first down is very close, you are either going to measure or award a first down. There was no measurement so if Carey waited until the ready for play to start the clock that sounds correct to me. The NFL does things differently like stopping the clock after a QB sack, but most of their starting and stopping the clock procedures are the same as every other level.

Peace

Thanks. That's interesting. In that circumstance, the mechanic should probably be to try to come to a very firm view whether you are inclined to call for a measurement before stopping the clock. On the other hand, on 4th down you don't want to let the clock run too much in that circumstance, since that would take time off the clock for the other team in the event of a turnover on downs.