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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 08:52pm
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High Stepping in the Orange Bowl

So Kansas gets flagged for "high stepping" by the Big Ten guys when the SEC crew last night overlooks a dive into the end zone at the Fiesta Bowl.

Can we have some consistency here?
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 09:09pm
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Sure, you're consistently whining. You've GOT to be a coach.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 09:15pm
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So Kansas gets flagged for "high stepping" by the Big Ten guys when the SEC crew last night overlooks a dive into the end zone at the Fiesta Bowl.

Can we have some consistency here?
The "dive" was by a runner trying to beat a defender to the goal line. Gotta let those go.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 09:39pm
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The "dive" was by a runner trying to beat a defender to the goal line. Gotta let those go.
I would concede your point if it were not for the Big Ten flagging the same play.

But the larger point is not so much to criticize the officials as to ask for consistency in the rule.

A body flip into the end zone and excessive celebration AFTER the score ought to be discouraged.

Highstepping or diving INTO the end zone is not worth penalizing.

The rule as it stands is ripe for inconsistency.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 09:42pm
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I would concede your point if it were not for the Big Ten flagging the same play.

But the larger point is not so much to criticize the officials as to ask for consistency in the rule.

A body flip into the end zone and excessive celebration AFTER the score ought to be discouraged.

Highstepping or diving INTO the end zone is not worth penalizing.

The rule as it stands is ripe for inconsistency.
It was not the "same" play and if you are unable to differentiate between the two then it is a good thing you are not reffing football.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 09:56pm
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The highstepping here is a great call.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 10:12pm
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It was not the "same" play and if you are unable to differentiate between the two then it is a good thing you are not reffing football.
No, it was worse. A player diving between TWO defenders in the biggest game of the season. And it was flagged.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 10:18pm
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What don't you understand about NCAA rule 9-2-1-a-1-e?
You do have a rule book right or maybe it's too many characters for you to index into?

I think all calls and non-calls todate have been just PERFECT!

I'd be even willing to go out on the limb and say that come Monday
evening we'll see none of these calls because by now those player and coaching staff are finally seeing the NCAA means business by these calls being made in just about every bowl game played so far.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 10:37pm
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What don't you understand about NCAA rule 9-2-1-a-1-e?
You do have a rule book right or maybe it's too many characters for you to index into?

I think all calls and non-calls todate have been just PERFECT!

I'd be even willing to go out on the limb and say that come Monday
evening we'll see none of these calls because by now those player and coaching staff are finally seeing the NCAA means business by these calls being made in just about every bowl game played so far.
You might want to show the rule book to all the officials since the calls are never consistent.

But, if you could read my posts and try to process them, you would understand my objection is not to the officials but to the rule which, in a word, is stupid.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 10:50pm
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You might want to show the rule book to all the officials since the calls are never consistent.
How you can state this and then claim that you're not complaining about the officials is incomprensible. If there is one constant about you it is that you always complain about the officials. It's been everything from instant replay rulings to now complaining about enforcement of taunting and celebration rules.

If you heeded your own advice, read the posts here and took the time to understand what's being said you might actually learn something.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 10:54pm
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If you heeded your own advice, read the posts here and took the time to understand what's being said you might actually learn something.


That is not going to happen because he is a troll and you guys keep feeding him. He does the very same thing on the baseball board. Just ignore him and he will eventually go away.

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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 11:04pm
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How you can state this and then claim that you're not complaining about the officials is incomprensible. If there is one constant about you it is that you always complain about the officials. It's been everything from instant replay rulings to now complaining about enforcement of taunting and celebration rules.

If you heeded your own advice, read the posts here and took the time to understand what's being said you might actually learn something.
If you care to read and comprehend then do so.

If not,choose ignore.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 11:08pm
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I would concede your point if it were not for the Big Ten flagging the same play.

But the larger point is not so much to criticize the officials as to ask for consistency in the rule.

A body flip into the end zone and excessive celebration AFTER the score ought to be discouraged.

Highstepping or diving INTO the end zone is not worth penalizing.

The rule as it stands is ripe for inconsistency.
Can't read, can you?

As Mike said, the player who dove into the end zone did so to avoid being tackled. PERFECTLY LEGAL!!!!!

Hot dogging is USC. Avoiding a tackle is not. That is consistent. You just aren't able to understand it.

JRut is right. This guy's a troll and is going on my Ignore list. I encourage others to do the same.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 11:10pm
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You might want to show the rule book to all the officials since the calls are never consistent.
If I may borrow from Forrest Gump, Are you just dumb or stupid! You actually think the officials at the level you are watching right now do not read over and over and over and over the rules in the NCAA football book? That is a kick in the teeth of these fine men if you do. They take test after test, have 2" thick binders of mechanics to commit to memory, review film after film every week after the season starts not to mention before the season start.

You have no idea that these folks start doing this as early as March of the next season! These guys are not even full time officials but they put in hours and hours at this prior to the start of the season.
Stop your whinning and complaining, maybe you'll learn somthing.

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But, if you could read my posts and try to process them, you would understand my objection is not to the officials but to the rule which, in a word, is stupid.
We don't care what you think of a rule. We DO care about your habitual bashing of officials or your opinion of replay to correct possible errors. You really don't have a clue about college football officiating. Give it up, go start your own forum of football complainers! get out of this one
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 11:13pm
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Can't read, can you?

As Mike said, the player who dove into the end zone did so to avoid being tackled. PERFECTLY LEGAL!!!!!

Hot dogging is USC. Avoiding a tackle is not. That is consistent. You just aren't able to understand it.

JRut is right. This guy's a troll and is going on my Ignore list. I encourage others to do the same.
No, the rule is stupid and leads to inconsistent enforcement.
The same play let go by the SEC is flagged by the Big Ten.
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