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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 08:52pm
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High Stepping in the Orange Bowl

So Kansas gets flagged for "high stepping" by the Big Ten guys when the SEC crew last night overlooks a dive into the end zone at the Fiesta Bowl.

Can we have some consistency here?
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 09:09pm
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Sure, you're consistently whining. You've GOT to be a coach.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 09:15pm
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So Kansas gets flagged for "high stepping" by the Big Ten guys when the SEC crew last night overlooks a dive into the end zone at the Fiesta Bowl.

Can we have some consistency here?
The "dive" was by a runner trying to beat a defender to the goal line. Gotta let those go.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 09:39pm
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The "dive" was by a runner trying to beat a defender to the goal line. Gotta let those go.
I would concede your point if it were not for the Big Ten flagging the same play.

But the larger point is not so much to criticize the officials as to ask for consistency in the rule.

A body flip into the end zone and excessive celebration AFTER the score ought to be discouraged.

Highstepping or diving INTO the end zone is not worth penalizing.

The rule as it stands is ripe for inconsistency.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 09:42pm
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I would concede your point if it were not for the Big Ten flagging the same play.

But the larger point is not so much to criticize the officials as to ask for consistency in the rule.

A body flip into the end zone and excessive celebration AFTER the score ought to be discouraged.

Highstepping or diving INTO the end zone is not worth penalizing.

The rule as it stands is ripe for inconsistency.
It was not the "same" play and if you are unable to differentiate between the two then it is a good thing you are not reffing football.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 09:56pm
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The highstepping here is a great call.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 10:18pm
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What don't you understand about NCAA rule 9-2-1-a-1-e?
You do have a rule book right or maybe it's too many characters for you to index into?

I think all calls and non-calls todate have been just PERFECT!

I'd be even willing to go out on the limb and say that come Monday
evening we'll see none of these calls because by now those player and coaching staff are finally seeing the NCAA means business by these calls being made in just about every bowl game played so far.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 10:12pm
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It was not the "same" play and if you are unable to differentiate between the two then it is a good thing you are not reffing football.
No, it was worse. A player diving between TWO defenders in the biggest game of the season. And it was flagged.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 11:08pm
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I would concede your point if it were not for the Big Ten flagging the same play.

But the larger point is not so much to criticize the officials as to ask for consistency in the rule.

A body flip into the end zone and excessive celebration AFTER the score ought to be discouraged.

Highstepping or diving INTO the end zone is not worth penalizing.

The rule as it stands is ripe for inconsistency.
Can't read, can you?

As Mike said, the player who dove into the end zone did so to avoid being tackled. PERFECTLY LEGAL!!!!!

Hot dogging is USC. Avoiding a tackle is not. That is consistent. You just aren't able to understand it.

JRut is right. This guy's a troll and is going on my Ignore list. I encourage others to do the same.
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Old Thu Jan 03, 2008, 11:13pm
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Can't read, can you?

As Mike said, the player who dove into the end zone did so to avoid being tackled. PERFECTLY LEGAL!!!!!

Hot dogging is USC. Avoiding a tackle is not. That is consistent. You just aren't able to understand it.

JRut is right. This guy's a troll and is going on my Ignore list. I encourage others to do the same.
No, the rule is stupid and leads to inconsistent enforcement.
The same play let go by the SEC is flagged by the Big Ten.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2008, 12:25am
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...calls are never consistent.

This cop-out sounds like the comments of a disgruntled coach, who is getting thumped.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2008, 01:35pm
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No, the rule is stupid and leads to inconsistent enforcement.
The same play let go by the SEC is flagged by the Big Ten.
One player dove into the end zone because he wanted to make sure he scored, rising to the challenge posed by the opponents' play, trying to achieve the object of the game. The other player goose stepped into the end zone to deliberately make it harder for him to score, saying, "Look, I'm scoring even though I'm walking funny!", dissing the opponents while flouting the object of the game. Can't you distinguish the latter as unsportsmanlike versus the former as sporting?

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Old Fri Jan 04, 2008, 02:17pm
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Trying to prevent a kid from breaking his neck is not a stupid intent for a rule.

As for enforcement, wide open diving would merit a flag. Diving to avoid a defender is not worthy of a flag. Officials are paid to be able to discern the difference. Looks like they get it right most of the time.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2008, 02:26am
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And the same outside pitch is called a strike by Hunter Wendlestedt and a ball by John Hirschbeck; and the same move by Lebron is ruled a travel the first time and not the next time; and a "lateral" is ruled a foward pass one time and a backward pass the next time....

What the F@#K is your point?

And, by the way, thanks for moving to the football board.
The point is obvious.
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