Holiday Bowl Texas

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by TXMike

The play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSqRgzjl2m8

Penalty was enforced from previous spot. Appears crew got 2 different fouls and penalties confused and the enforcement reflected a "blend", i.e. 1 certain foul but with the enforcement that is mandated for the other foul.

If the determination was that the ball or other players were interfered with, then the R can enforce any penalty he deems equitable. If he thinks it is equitable to enforce from prev spot. 1/2 the distance, but no replay of down, so be it. I do not think that is what he was doing though.

Under what NCAA provision was that play reviewable?

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Under what NCAA provision was that play reviewable?

12-3-2-g and 12-3-3-j

So it's possible next year we could see a review after every play just to make sure there wasn't a penalty on the play? I mean, where will this stop?

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

So it's possible next year we could see a review after every play just to make sure there wasn't a penalty on the play? I mean, where will this stop?

And maybe they could get the e-flat trumpet in the band for being off key?

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by TXMike

12-3-2-g and 12-3-3-j

The first is not applicable since there was no dispute that the ball was a backward pass.

The second is a gross misuse of instant replay since the officials on the field made no call on any such infraction.

Using instant replay to go on a fishing expedition is an insult to the fans,coaches and players.

Instant replay is ruining the game and is a travesty.

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

The first is not applicable since there was no dispute that the ball was a backward pass.

The second is a gross misuse of instant replay since the officials on the field made no call on any such infraction.

Using instant replay to go on a fishing expedition is an insult to the fans,coaches and players.

Instant replay is ruining the game and is a travesty.

How can you say there was no dispute, the R flagged it initially as IG? Are you even a football official?

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by TXMike

How can you say there was no dispute, the R flagged it initially as IG? Are you even a football official?

The flag was picked up.

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

The flag was picked up.

Yes it was and if you are watching the Liberty Bowl you saw IR used to review a fwd pass or not situation there also. In the UT game, IR could have chosen to review the play to see if it may have been a fwd pass or not.Just wondereing how it is that you seem to know so much about what IR is or is not permitted to address?

[kdf5]

I don't want instant replay used to look for fouls but in this particular case a coach or team attendant or glorified stepson or whatever he is was on the field and probably (or maybe didn't) touch the ball! You have a significant problem when that happens.

Someone said something about a blended foul and it seems to me that's what happened. I have two questions:

1. Why wasn't this illegal participation instead of a USC?

2. If this was an USC, why didn't TX keep the ball? Isn't an USC a succeeding spot foul?

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by TXMike

Yes it was and if you are watching the Liberty Bowl you saw IR used to review a fwd pass or not situation there also. In the UT game, IR could have chosen to review the play to see if it may have been a fwd pass or not.Just wondereing how it is that you seem to know so much about what IR is or is not permitted to address?

The OP was about the Holiday Bowl. The flag was picked up so any IR reference to that is irrelevant.

The replay was nothing more than a fishing expedition and a travesty of the game.

Any official who has to put up with this crap ought to get hazard pay.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by TXMike

How can you say there was no dispute, the R flagged it initially as IG? Are you even a football official?

Mike, he's one of those guys who's only purpose here is to stir up $hit about officials. Look at his posts. That's all he does.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Mike, he's one of those guys who's only purpose here is to stir up $hit about officials. Look at his posts. That's all he does.

No. I am here to learn about the rules and why, in some cases, they are ignored.

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

No. I am here to learn about the rules and why, in some cases, they are ignored.

You are not going to learn enough by hanging out on an internet discssion board to ever appease you or to make you truly understand the rules and how the game is officiated. This is arguably the most complex sport to officiate in the world and anyone who tries to read the rulebook as back and whiyte is going to have serious problems. Why not join up with your local football officials and REALLY try to learn the game?