Holiday Bowl Texas

[LeRoy]

I bet they had to pull the rule book out for this one. Arizona St. QB throws a backward lateral and a Texas trainer May or May not have touched a live ball on the field of play, but there was a official just yards away from the play and did not call anything. But the play review offical must have seen somthing. Not sure that if is a good place for the review. Next they will have the replay offical calling Holding... !!!!!!!!!

[CTFBRef]

must be a texas fan....

[BoBo]

as a sooner fan i dont think that the sideline personell touched the ball.

would be nice to see the play from the reverse angle from the ASU sideline camera but apparently that camera man was focusing on something else

[Ref inSoCA]

I thought Replay was supposed to make it so they got the call right. That was pathetic. Then the R could not enforce it.

There is no way in hell that kid touched that ball. The L was right there and made no call. That should tell you something.

I never heard what conference the clown R was were from but likely another instance where lesser conference officals can't handle big time football.

Pathetic.

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by Ref inSoCA

I thought Replay was supposed to make it so they got the call right. That was pathetic. Then the R could not enforce it.

There is no way in hell that kid touched that ball. The L was right there and made no call. That should tell you something.

I never heard what conference the clown R was were from but likely another instance where lesser conference officals can't handle big time football.

Pathetic.

Uhhhhh. he is from the SEC And you might want to know there are quite a few guys who disagree with your conclusion on the call Are you saying nobody interefered with live ball action?

[Fan10]

Originally Posted by Ref inSoCA

I thought Replay was supposed to make it so they got the call right. That was pathetic. Then the R could not enforce it.

There is no way in hell that kid touched that ball. The L was right there and made no call. That should tell you something.

I never heard what conference the clown R was were from but likely another instance where lesser conference officals can't handle big time football.

Pathetic.

Try the SEC

[Sonofanump]

9.2.b.1 No coaches entering field of play

9.1.4.a No subs entering during play

4.1.3.k Touching anything other than player of official


Looks like they got it correct.

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by CTFBRef

must be a texas fan....

he is a pretty good official, when he is a fan he is an OSU Cowboy fan...

[ace]

Here is what I dont understand.....

Can you enforce a penalty BASED on a replay?????? I didn't think you could.

And why can't you have an IG on a backwards passs? isn't IG IG?

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by ace

Here is what I dont understand.....

Can you enforce a penalty BASED on a replay?????? I didn't think you could.

And why can't you have an IG on a backwards passs? isn't IG IG?

I dont' work in a conference with IR so can't get too involved there. IG on a backwards pass is not illegal because......
A) is it not illegal to throw a backwards pass out of bounds unless it is to save time.
B) if it doesn't get out of bounds it is a live ball and anyone can recover and advance. So there is no advantage to throwing a backwards pass to save yardage, because if no one recovers it it is awarded to the team last in possesion at the dead ball spot.

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by ace

Here is what I dont understand.....

Can you enforce a penalty BASED on a replay?????? I didn't think you could.

And why can't you have an IG on a backwards passs? isn't IG IG?

Fouls can be called after an IR review has provided new "facts" to the R.

IG specifically applies to forward passes. You can have an illegal backward pass, i.e. when thrown deliberately OOB to conserve time, but that is not IG.

[BoBo]

I can understand the views on here that it was probably interference by the sideline but then why did the ref state the penalty on the play was for the sideline personel TOUCHING the ball!?!?!?

Where i think most of us agree that it was inconclusive whether the ball was touched or not.

[LeRoy]

Originally Posted by cmathews

he is a pretty good official, when he is a fan he is an OSU Cowboy fan...

Thanks ... GO BIG 12

[Blue37]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

a Texas trainer May or May not have touched a live ball on the field of play

I make my living reading people and am pretty good at it. From every view I had, he did not touch the ball, but his reaction after the penalty was called told me he did. His reactions were not those of a person who is unjustly accused.

Replay question - Is it possible the replay official had a view we did not get?

[MJT]

It looked as if he may have touched the ball with his thumb, and if so, it was the right call. There were many guys on the field as the ball bounced towards the sideline and the penalty was warranted, and properly enforced. Downfield 5 yards more another coach was 3-4 yards on the field also.