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Old Thu Oct 18, 2007, 11:19pm
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Tonight we had a center start the snap it hit his knee and he picked it up. NCAA

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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 04:36am
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Tonight we had a center start the snap it hit his knee and he picked it up.
ANd what did you do?
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 07:16am
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ANd what did you do?
I called it a bad snap, and got no arguement.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 07:18am
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Nor should you have received any argument
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 11:05am
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Nor should you have received any argument

Mike last night when it happened I called it that way, a partner said it was wrong, and I told him it might be but tonight this is the way it is. Have not found any rule support for my case, do you have a rule or in a casebook.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 11:11am
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The center was just being a mother hen, picking up her own egg and protecting it!
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 03:48pm
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3-4-6 The ball remains dead and a down is not begun if a snap or free-kick is attempted before the ball is ready for play, or there is an illegal snap, other snap infraction or a dead-ball foul occurs.

2-40-2 The snap begins when the snapper first moves the ball legally other than in adjustment. In a snap, the movement must be a quick and continuous backward motion of the ball during which the ball immediately leaves the hand(s) of the snapper and touches a back or the ground before it touches an A lineman.

So in the original situation the ball hit a lineman, the snapper's knee, before it touched a back or the ground so it was an illegal snap.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2007, 04:26pm
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So in the original situation the ball hit a lineman, the snapper's knee, before it touched a back or the ground so it was an illegal snap.[/QUOTE]

Would this be a 5 yd penalty against A / repeat the down / clock start at the ready ?
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Old Sat Oct 20, 2007, 01:46am
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3-4-6 The ball remains dead and a down is not begun if a snap or free-kick is attempted before the ball is ready for play, or there is an illegal snap, other snap infraction or a dead-ball foul occurs.

2-40-2 The snap begins when the snapper first moves the ball legally other than in adjustment. In a snap, the movement must be a quick and continuous backward motion of the ball during which the ball immediately leaves the hand(s) of the snapper and touches a back or the ground before it touches an A lineman.

So in the original situation the ball hit a lineman, the snapper's knee, before it touched a back or the ground so it was an illegal snap.
Sorry it was NCAA. we have no 2-40-2 but that is a good one.
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Old Sat Oct 20, 2007, 12:02pm
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So in the original situation the ball hit a lineman, the snapper's knee, before it touched a back or the ground so it was an illegal snap.
Would this be a 5 yd penalty against A / repeat the down / clock start at the ready ?[/QUOTE]

NF - It’s a dead ball foul, the clock will revert to its status after the previous play.
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2007, 08:06am
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Sorry it was NCAA. we have no 2-40-2 but that is a good one.
I should have known that.
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