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Old Sun Oct 14, 2007, 04:28pm
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I know Walt knows this, but to make sure you understand that it is only a loose ball play if the ball gets thrown after the hold. If the hold occurs while the QB is in the pocket and then he runs the ball, hands it off, or gets sacked, it is a running play and the BS is the end of the run. You then would enforce the penalty from the EOR unless the hold is behind the EOR, in which case you'd enforce from the spot of the foul.

Juggling Ref brings up a good point about the hold after the pass. If that hold is against a linemen, it should not be thrown as it has no impact on the play.
Yes, exactly. Thanks for filling in the blanks.

As an Umpire I stay with the line play for a bit after the pass is thrown just to keep an eye on any cheap shots. I'll also verbalize and let them know that I'm still watching if they're still dancing with each other.
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Old Sun Oct 14, 2007, 06:10pm
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Yes, exactly. Thanks for filling in the blanks.

As an Umpire I stay with the line play for a bit after the pass is thrown just to keep an eye on any cheap shots.
Walt, if it is not a deep pass, don't you pivot to help on whether it is a catch or no catch? The R cannot help on those, so I (the R) am the one who cleans up line play with "ball's away" and "we're done" so the U can pivot. On many plays, especially drags or down and ins he has the best look at if it was a catch or no catch.
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Old Sun Oct 14, 2007, 06:17pm
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Yes, I'll turn to give some help on the catch/trap. About the only ones I miss are the quick slants and short crossing patterns that have me diving for cover!
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Old Sun Oct 14, 2007, 06:26pm
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Yes, I'll turn to give some help on the catch/trap. About the only ones I miss are the quick slants and short crossing patterns that have me diving for cover!

2 years ago, our U caught one right in the forhead. We heard a big thud! As soon as we knew he wasn't hurt, we had a great time laughing!! We still talk about it, and probably always will be on our highlight real.
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Old Sun Oct 14, 2007, 10:16pm
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I almost got hit with a deflected ball on a middle screen a couple of weeks ago. The receiver was about an arm's length from me. Between me, him, the blockers and defensive players the area was a bit crowded.

I actually think my R enjoys watching when he hears the offense call for a middle screen or draw play.
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Old Sun Oct 14, 2007, 11:56pm
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Speaking of middle screens, I had a play last week where I could've been credited with the tackle. I'm read pass and started moving towards the LOS just as the ball was being thrown. The full back caught the ball, turned up field and ended up right in my arms. I tried pushing him away but it was too late, the defense caught him and nearly took us both down.

He got up, gave me a look of distgust and started walking away. Being that I'm not a small guy, I simply told him "Sorry but I just can't disappear."
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Old Mon Oct 15, 2007, 12:12am
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I was U in a freshman game a couple weeks ago so that a young R could get some experience. I was focusing on the blockers so hard that a pass whistled right by my ear as I made no move to avoid it. It was so close that I could hear a "whooshing" sound. Of course, I stand 6-3 so I am not your prototypical U. (in a lot of ways!) I like the U spot. Lots of action there. When I retire, I plan to become a U.
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