Not the biggest question but it still bothers me

[jontheref]

Question...do BJs in other states use the mechanic where they raise their hand with five seconds to go in the playclock. And, if you do does it help---hinder or have any effect on either the QB or you. Thanks!

[MJT]

In Iowa, we have SPECIFICALLY told by our state office to NOT do that mechanic.

[Forksref]

Originally Posted by MJT

In Iowa, we have SPECIFICALLY told by our state office to NOT do that mechanic.

I wish we had the same directive. In ND we are told to do the illegal motion signal repeatedly for the last 5 sec. of the 25 sec. count. Yuck!

I think it's catering to the offense.

[scclan]

Requesting answer from experienced HS refs, is pass interference ever a spot foul?

[MJT]

Originally Posted by scclan

Requesting answer from experienced HS refs, is pass interference ever a spot foul?

Not if you are using NF rules, but if in Texas or Conn (I think it is Conn) and using NCAA rules, then yes. In NCAA it is a spot foul if the DPI occurred less than 15 yards from the PS, but in NF it is a 15 yard penalty from the PS.

[scclan]

Great Help--Thanks

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by MJT

Not if you are using NF rules, but if in Texas or Conn (I think it is Conn) and using NCAA rules, then yes. In NCAA it is a spot foul if the DPI occurred less than 15 yards from the PS, but in NF it is a 15 yard penalty from the PS.

Massachusetts, not Connecticut.

[scclan]

I am a new official that maintains an email exchange with an experienced official. He is asking what type of play is it when there is pass interference. Is he referring to a live ball foul?

[Bob M.]

Originally Posted by MJT

Not if you are using NF rules, but if in Texas or Conn (I think it is Conn) and using NCAA rules, then yes. In NCAA it is a spot foul if the DPI occurred less than 15 yards from the PS, but in NF it is a 15 yard penalty from the PS.

REPLY: It's Texas and Massachusetts that use NCAA rules (I know Monte...all those New England states are the same )

Edit: walt...sorry. I hadn't 'refreshed' my browser and didn't realize that you had already mentioned the other NCAA state.

[Bob M.]

REPLY: We use the same technique that cmathews described for Wyoming. The amazing thing is that players/coaches have definitely caught on. When a team is attempting to run out a clock the QB will key on the BJ's signal and snap with 1 or 2 seconds remaining in the count.

[Rick KY]

Just curious as to how the BJ knows there is only 5 seconds left in the timer. Are you looking at your watch? Shouldn't you be watching the formation and finding your keys? If there is a clock on the field there is no need for this mechanic. My initial reaction is that this is a needless mechanic.

[OverAndBack]

I'm a back judge in Illinois and we're supposed to do the high arm motion (like the 10-second count in basketball) starting at 20. I have a Ready Ref (love it), so I just hit it on the RFP and start the motion when it buzzes.

I don't have a problem with it. If it's what they want, that's what I'll do. I don't know why it would be a problem or why someone would think it's distasteful. But that's just me.

[Forksref]

Originally Posted by scclan

Requesting answer from experienced HS refs, is pass interference ever a spot foul?

It's a loose ball play so in Fed ball the basic spot is the previous spot.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by jontheref

Question...do BJs in other states use the mechanic where they raise their hand with five seconds to go in the playclock. And, if you do does it help---hinder or have any effect on either the QB or you. Thanks!

In NC, we use it. However, we have more and more schools that install play clocks each year, so we don;t have to use it too often anymore.

I'm not sure it helps the QB. It's usually a coach that's watching the BJ and yelling to the QB. Why do you think it would it have any effect on the BJ?

[TXMike]

Texas does it at 1o secnds left