Biggest myths

[DC_Ref12]

What are the most often perpetuated myths about the rules of basketball that you encounter in your dealings with fans, players and coaches?

I'd have to say my top two are

1) Backcourt - most I talk to think the ball is in the frontcourt the moment the ball or part of a foot touches the frontcourt.

2) Traveling - most I interact with also don't understand the concept of having control over the ball to have a travel.

What about you? Any really wacky or out there myths you've come across?

[Ignats75]

That rule 11 prohibits the player in back from getting the rebound

That rule 12 prohibits a player from reaching for a ball.

[Dan_ref]

You gotta have your feet nailed to the floor to take a charge.

[Mark Padgett]

The officials care who wins.

[JRutledge]

Old Rules Myths Thread

You might want to try this link. This has been discussed before.

Peace

[jkjenning]

There are some very nice lists of most understood basketball rules and no doubt one of them will get posted. I have one printed out and intend to make some video clips over the summer to go along with them as an instructional aid [to parents!] for a 6th grade league.

For instace, take five offensive players, plant the pick guy in the key and make a 20-30 second clip where the big guy never moves yet there is no 3-second violation because of a combination of bringing the ball up the court and shots. There are probably about a dozen nice videos that could be make to illustrate some of the misunderstood rules.

Search the forum for "misunderstood rules".

[DC_Ref12]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Old Rules Myths Thread

You might want to try this link. This has been discussed before.

Peace

Thanks, JRut.

[Terrapins Fan]

Control. People think that a player is walking when they are trying to gain control of the ball. It's ugly, but not a walk.

[Ref Daddy]

• Over the back (!)
• Traveling
• Coaching Box
• Three second's in the lane (suspending/restarting)
• Traveling
• Player control (charging)
• Over and Back details
• High Dribble

... to name a few.

[Vinski]

In some of the JH ball I do, I sometimes find people (including some coaches) that think the AP goes to the team opposite of who threw the ball in last (jump or not). I even had one kid that would change the arrow every time the ball changed possession, i.e., a goal scored, OOB, steal, anything. He was changing the arrow about every ten seconds. Drove me crazy.

[deecee]

toothfairy
santa clause
the monster in the closet -- unless your father is Michael Jackson
officials are slow, fat and balding

all completly wrong and very inaccurate.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by jkjenning

... as an instructional aid [to parents!] for a 6th grade league...

Wow. That's ambitious. I'd love to hear how that turns out. Rather than educating the parents, see if ya can hog-tie the coaches and force THEM to watch it.

[jkjenning]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Wow. That's ambitious. I'd love to hear how that turns out. Rather than educating the parents, see if ya can hog-tie the coaches and force THEM to watch it.

Posting it and getting feedback is a given. Thanks.
I also plan to have applications for parents who wish to begin a career in officiating!

[emtp]

That all contact is a foul, think incidental

[BillyMac]

1) It is important to know the intent and purpose of a rule so that it may be intelligently applied in each play situation. A player of a team should not be permitted an advantage which is not intended by a rule. Neither should play be permitted to develop which may lead to placing a player at a disadvantage not intended by a rule.

2) A player cannot touch the ball, ring, or net while the ball is on the ring or within the basket. A player cannot touch the ball if it is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. These are examples of basket interference. It is legal to touch the ring or the net if the ball is above the ring and not touching the ring, even if the ball is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. It is legal to hang on the ring if a player is avoiding an injury to himself or herself or another player.

3) The backboard has nothing to do with goaltending. Goaltending is contacting the ball on its downward flight, above the level of the rim, with a chance to go in. On most layups, the ball is going up after it contacts the backboard. It is legal to pin the ball against the backboard if it still on the way up and not in the imaginary cylinder above the basket. Slapping the backboard is neither basket interference nor is it goaltending and points cannot be awarded. A player who strikes a backboard so forcefully that it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration, may be assessed a technical foul. When a player simply attempts to block a shot and accidentally slaps the backboard it is neither a violation nor is it a technical foul.

4) The front, top, sides, and bottom of the backboard are all in play. The ball cannot pass over a rectangular backboard from either direction. The back of a backboard is out of bounds as well as the supporting structures.

5) The traveling rule is one of the most misunderstood rules in basketball. To start a dribble, the ball must be released before the pivot foot is lifted. On a pass or a shot, the pivot foot may be lifted, but may not return to the floor before the ball is released. A player may slide on the floor while trying to secure a loose ball until that player’s momentum stops. At that point that player cannot attempt to get up or rollover. A player securing a ball while on the floor cannot attempt to stand up unless that player starts a dribble. A player in this situation may also pass, shoot, or call a timeout. If the player is flat on his or her back, that player may sit up without violating.

6) During a fumble the player is not in control of the ball, and therefore, cannot be called for a traveling violation. A fumble is the accidental loss of player control when the ball is unintentionally dropped or slips from a player’s grasp. After a player has ended a dribble and fumbled the ball, that player may recover the ball without violating. Any steps taken during the recovery of a fumble are not traveling, regardless of how far the ball goes and the amount of advantage that is gained. It is always legal to recover a fumble, even at the end of a dribble, however that player cannot begin a new dribble, which would be a double dribble violation. A player who fumbles the ball when receiving a pass may legally start a dribble.

7) The shooter can retrieve his or her own airball, if the referee considers it to be a shot attempt. The release ends team control. It is not a violation for that player to start another dribble at that point. When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a jump ball. If, in this situation, the shooter releases the ball, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues.

8) Palming or carrying is when a player gains an advantage when the ball comes to rest in the player's hand, and the player either travels with the ball, or dribbles a second time. There is no restriction as to how high a player may bounce the ball, provided the ball does not come to rest in a player’s hand. Steps taken during a dribble are not traveling, including several that are sometimes taken when a high dribble takes place. It is not possible for a player to travel during a dribble.

9) A player inbounding the ball may step on, but not over the line. During a designated spot throwin, the player inbounding the ball must keep one foot on or over the three-foot wide designated spot. An inbounding player is allowed to jump or move one or both feet. A player inbounding the ball may move backward as far as the five-second time limit or space allows. If player moves outside the three-foot wide designated spot it is a violation, not travelling. In gymnasiums with limited space outside the sidelines and endlines, a defensive player may be asked to step back no more than three feet. A player inbounding the ball may bounce the ball on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throwin.

10) The defender may not break the imaginary plane during a throwin. If the defender breaks the imaginary plane during a throwin, the defender’s team will receive a team warning, or if the team has already been warned for one of the four delay situations, this action would result in a team technical foul. If the defender contacts the ball after breaking the imaginary plane, it is a player technical foul and a team warning will be recorded. If the defender fouls the inbounding player after breaking the imaginary plane, it is an intentional personal foul, and a team warning will be recorded.

11) The inbounding player does not have a plane restriction, but has five seconds to release the ball and it must come directly onto the court. The ball can always be passed into the backcourt during a throwin. This situation is not a backcourt violation.

12) If a player's momentum carries him or her off the court, he or she can be the first player to touch the ball after returning inbounds. That player must not have left the court voluntarily and must immediately return inbounds. That player must have something in and nothing out. It is not necessary to have both feet back inbounds.

13) If a blind screen is set on a stationary defender, the defender must be given one normal step to change direction and attempt to avoid contact. If a screen is set on a moving defender, the defender gets a minimum of one step and a maximum of two steps, depending on the speed and distance of the defender.

14) The hand is considered part of the ball when the hand is in contact with the ball. This includes holding, dribbling, passing, or even during a shot attempt. Striking a ball handler or a shooter on that player's hand that is incidental to an attempt to play the ball is not a foul, no matter how loud it sounds or how much it hurts.

15) Reaching in is not a foul. The term is nowhere to be found in any rulebook. There must be contact to have a foul. The mere act of reaching in, by itself, is nothing. If contact does occur, it’s either a holding foul or an illegal use of hands foul. When a player, in order to stop the clock, does not make a legitimate play for the ball, holds, pushes or grabs away from the ball, or uses undue roughness, the foul is an intentional foul.