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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 08:21pm
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Which is exactly what I told you NOT to do.

If you keep your whistle in your mouth, you're going to blow it when you shouldn't, AKA an inadvertant whistle.

DO NOT KEEP THE WHISTLE IN YOUR MOUTH. If you do, you're going to blow it when you think the runner's down and he's not, you think he's down but the ball is loose, or you think he has the ball but someone else actually does.

Officiating football is a series of repititions. You do the same things over and over and over and over.... Don't worry, the more you do it, the more habitually it will become.
Well, see that's the thing. I had it out and got yelled at for late whistles and then the ref told me to just keep it in my mouth. I tested out the wrist landyard thing at home after waltjp suggested it and I think that's going to work.

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so, wearing the ring on your finger, how can you blow the whistle and signal the end of a play at the same time? Like, how can you whistle and signal an incompletion?
Well, what I saw the guy that had that today do was blow the play dead quickly and then make the call right afterwards. For example, when the runner goes down, blow the whistle loud and as you run in for the spot then make the hand signal. I guess that's really the only way right?
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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 08:46pm
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On just about any play, a whistle isn't even needed. The play kills itself. The whistle is just an indicator that the play is over. I might blow my whistle once or twice a game. (I work as a deep official) You don't need a whistle when everyone in the stadium knows the pass is incomplete or the runner is down, or it's a TD, etc.

I know there are a lot of people that argue the need for whistles, especially in lower level ball, but the fact is that the play is over when the play is over, not when the whistle blows. (unless it's an inadvertant whistle) Get in the habit of NOT blowing it. Use your voice to talk to the players, use your whistle only when you have to.
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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 08:58pm
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I had it out and got yelled at for late whistles and then the ref told me to just keep it in my mouth.
This has to rate as about the worst advice anyone can offer you. It's better to be slow and correct than fast and wrong. An NFL official who helps our association with mechanics suggests that we try to officiate a scrimmage without using whistles. His claim is that after the first couple of plays the players will become accustomed to it and the officiating crew will realize that the whistles are not really required.


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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 09:24pm
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This has to rate as about the worst advice anyone can offer you. It's better to be slow and correct than fast and wrong. An NFL official who helps our association with mechanics suggests that we try to officiate a scrimmage without using whistles. His claim is that after the first couple of plays the players will become accustomed to it and the officiating crew will realize that the whistles are not really required.


See wrist lanyard here.
I think I can accomplish the wrist landyard with my regular one. I'll just move the black ball up and lock it around my wrist and wrap the rest of the string around my hand.

What about the old saying that you "play until you hear the whistle"? Isn't that what the players are taught? I hear a lot from the guys teaching the class that "sometimes I never blow my whistle" and "the play is dead by rule." I think what might happen sometimes is that we're so afraid of blowing an inadvertant whistle that we over compensate by not blowing it at all. If the play is dead by rule, and you know it's dead by rule, there should be nothing wrong with blowing the whistle, but I agree with everyone here that having it in your mouth is probably a bad idea. I had to catch myself a couple times before I blew it to make sure I was sure that the play was actually dead.
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Old Sat Aug 11, 2007, 11:08pm
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What about the old saying that you "play until you hear the whistle"? Isn't that what the players are taught?
You'll hear this from coaches and parents. Like a lot of things you'll hear from them - it's not true.

I can almost guarantee that at some point this season there will be a play that is clearly over, a whistle won't be blown and a player will unload on an opponent. Flags will fly for the late hit and soon after you'll hear the chorus sing, "The whistle didn't blow."

Whistle or not, the play is over when the play is over.
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Old Mon Aug 13, 2007, 10:59am
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An NFL official who helps our association with mechanics suggests that we try to officiate a scrimmage without using whistles. See wrist lanyard here.
Then why the hell carry them? That's a silly suggestion.

I agree that there should normally be only one whistle on a play - and that should come from the covering official.
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Old Mon Aug 13, 2007, 04:43pm
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Then why the hell carry them? That's a silly suggestion.

I agree that there should normally be only one whistle on a play - and that should come from the covering official.
It's an exercise, Jim. Nobody ever suggested no using a whistle in a game. Besides, what would you do with your lanyard if you didn't have a whistle?
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