Illegal Formation - NFL Rule Question

[GPC2]

Did a semi-pro game tonight (they use NFL rules) and I'm not sure if I ruled properly.

QUESTION: If the wide receiver covers up the tight end (both on the LOS), is it Illegal Formation regardless of whether it is a running play or a passing play??

[MJT]

Correct for the NFL. I am a referee at the same level.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by GPC2

Did a semi-pro game tonight (they use NFL rules) and I'm not sure if I ruled properly.

QUESTION: If the wide receiver covers up the tight end (both on the LOS), is it Illegal Formation regardless of whether it is a running play or a passing play??

Did the "covered" player "report ineligible" (eligible number at ineligible position) to the ref between downs?

[GPC2]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Did the "covered" player "report ineligible" (eligible number at ineligible position) to the ref between downs?

No he didn't. The receiver just made a mistake and lined up incorrectly.

[MJT]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Did the "covered" player "report ineligible" (eligible number at ineligible position) to the ref between downs?

Doesn't matter if he reports or not. Even an eligible numbered player is going to be called for a foul if covered up in the NFL. That is how their rule reads.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by MJT

Doesn't matter if he reports or not. Even an eligible numbered player is going to be called for a foul if covered up in the NFL. That is how their rule reads.

Yes, but one of the commonest variants used by leagues that'll tell you they're playing by strict NFL rules is to allow both eligible numbers to report ineligible and vice versa, as long as they do it before every down. (Mostly it's because of shortages of players and shirts.) Then again, it's not the officials' fault if the league never tells them about it. If the player were to report like that to the referee, I would take that as evidence that their league allows it. That evidence could be contradicted if the umpire reports it to the other team's captain and they say, "We don't allow that!"

Robert

[NickelDeuce]

MJT is correct. This is a foul on any play. Running or passing. They must line up correctly to start with.

[tmref]

It is a foul at the snap as MJT stated. However, an ineligible player may take an eligible position or an eligible player may take an ineligible position as long as he reports to the referee before the play. The latter most often happens on punts when the long snapper is wearing an eligible number.

[golfnref]

Originally Posted by tmref

It is a foul at the snap as MJT stated. However, an ineligible player may take an eligible position or an eligible player may take an ineligible position as long as he reports to the referee before the play. The latter most often happens on punts when the long snapper is wearing an eligible number.

We finally have the correct answer to the original question. NFL Rule 7.2.3