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Old Sun Dec 17, 2006, 07:33pm
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Ties in HS championship game?

In Georgia, two state title games ended in a tie, resulting in to sets of co-champions. How many other states do not have overtime in the finals?

I was also told that only 46 states are under the NFHS umbrella. If so, which states are not and why?

Thanks in advance and please correct me where I am wrong.
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Old Sun Dec 17, 2006, 07:54pm
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Tennessee and SC have overtime in all games middle school on up.

48 states use NFHS rules, only Texas and Massachusetts do not.
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Old Sun Dec 17, 2006, 07:58pm
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In Iowa, we have a tiebreaker only in varsity contests.
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Old Sun Dec 17, 2006, 08:34pm
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Tiebreaker is used in NY for varsity games including playoffs. In fact, a first ever occurred in this years final.

Does Georgia use a tiebreaker procedure during regular season?
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Old Sun Dec 17, 2006, 09:55pm
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Does Georgia use a tiebreaker procedure during regular season?
In region games, overtime is mandatory. In non-region games, it is allowed only if both head coaches agree to it before the game and inform the referee. Of course in the first four rounds of the playoffs, overtime is mandatory as well. Only in the championship game is there no overtime, period. Even if both head coaches want it, they can't have it.

My apologies, I was referring to varsity level in my original post. I didn't even think of JV, middle school, etc.
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Old Sun Dec 17, 2006, 10:31pm
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In Georgia, two state title games ended in a tie, resulting in to sets of co-champions. How many other states do not have overtime in the finals?

I was also told that only 46 states are under the NFHS umbrella. If so, which states are not and why?

Thanks in advance and please correct me where I am wrong.
For the first time, this year, there would have been OT in the Championships is the San Diego Section. Prior years there were co-champions.

A couple of leagues play OT for playoff seeding only (the game remains a tie) during the regular season.

We also don't use the Fed OT--we use the NCAA 25 yard line OT with appropriate NF modifications (but NOT dead on B recovery).
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 10:16am
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In Missouri there is no tie breaker for the championship game. The teams are both declared co-champions.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 11:36am
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REPLY: NJ uses the NCAA procedure to break ties at the varsity level. Maximum of three OT periods during regular season. No maximum number of periods in the playoffs. You keep going till the cows come home.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2006, 06:37pm
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In Missouri there is no tie breaker for the championship game. The teams are both declared co-champions.
What about all games up to that point?
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Old Tue Dec 19, 2006, 12:10am
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What is the reasoning why some states don't allow the overtimes to be played in championship games. They have to use OT in all the other playoff games so they know who moves on. Why not the championship games? Also how does a tiebreaker system work.
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Old Tue Dec 19, 2006, 07:55am
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...I read in the thread Texas doesn't use FED rules. Are a max of three OT periods the FED rule?
REPLY: No...three max is not a Fed rule...nor is it an NCAA rule. It's just how the state of NJ has decided to use the NCAA procedure during regular season contests.
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Old Wed Dec 20, 2006, 10:38pm
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In the old days of Texas football ties in the playoffs were decided by penetrations.
It wasn't just playoffs. Penetrations (and the rest as you described) were used to decide district champs. Until 1981, only 1 team from each of the 32 districts in each class made the playoffs. If I'm not mistaken, a team in Texas went 2 years without losing yet only won one playoff game. The first year, they tied another team for the district title, but would have lost due to penetrations. However, the other team eventually lost during district play, so the first team went 2 rounds in the playoffs, only to tie the eventual state runner up -- again, losing on penetrations.

The next year in district, the original team again tied the same district rival as the year before, losing on penetrations, but this time, the district rival went on to the playoffs and eventually won state. Something like 20-0-3 in two years and one second round playoff finish to show for it!
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Old Wed Dec 20, 2006, 11:09pm
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In the old days out ties were decided by First Downs.

We'd put a piece of tape on each leg and write them down. That was in the days of the white sweat sox over the black sox.
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Old Fri Dec 22, 2006, 11:15am
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Ohio uses an overtime procedure for all varsity games including the state championship. This year the division 1 (biggest schools) championship went 2 overtimes. The winning points were on a 2 pt try, coach said he was either gonna win or lose on that one play. Great game.
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