Illegal Forward Pass Situation

[JS63]

That is exactly why I asked and in NCAA. I wanted to know what the basic spot is. So, see if this is correct.

A has the ball at the B40. A10 muffs a snap at the B46. While the ball is loose B99 grabs A10's FM and jerks his head. A76 picks up the loose ball and advances to the (a)B30 or (b)B24.

It would be (a)A's ball 1st and 10 from the B25 after accepting the penalty or (b)A's ball 1st and 10 from the B24 after declining the penalty since the foul occurred during the 1st run.

[TXMike]

There is only 1 run possible behind the NZ so until the run gets beyond the NZ and ends, we still have 1 run. In your play the enforcement will be from wherever that run ends, 30 or 24. To see the variation I think you are looking for, try this..
Ball snapped at 50. A runs to the B35 and throws a backward pass to a teammate. The teammate advances to the 10 and is tackled there There was a PF facemask by B as the backward pass was being thrownl. That penalty, if accepted would result in a having the ball at the 20. If they decline that penalty, then they get it at the 10.

[bossman72]

Slightly off topic, but are illegal forward passes supposed to be blown dead? I've seen plays before where the IFP was only flagged and the play was allowed to continue....

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by bossman72

Slightly off topic, but are illegal forward passes supposed to be blown dead? I've seen plays before where the IFP was only flagged and the play was allowed to continue....

Not blown dead in NCAA rules (unless of course it falls incomplete)

[Theisey]

Same under NF rules. Flag it but let the play continue if the pass is completed.

[JS63]

So, under my scenario A gets the ball 1st and 10 from the 15 or 12 if accepted since the penalty is enforced from the end of the run?

[Smiley]

In your play, the foul occurred during a muffed snap. This is a loose ball play. Basic spot is the previous spot.

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by JS63

So, under my scenario A gets the ball 1st and 10 from the 15 or 12 if accepted since the penalty is enforced from the end of the run?

In NCAA rules, yes. There would be no reason to even offer Team A an option of accepting or declining. They are going to get the yardage and the penalty as there is only 1 run on the play and it starts at the snap and ends downfield.