Hurdling

[wisref2]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We had this discussion on another site. I personally have a big problem with this being called if there is no contact. Personal fouls involve contact. If there is no contact all you could have is unsportsmanlike conduct, which is not considered a foul under that part of the rules.

Also understand that the NCAA rules allow this when it clearly involves the runner. All the NF does is gives you a definition and a foul for hurdling but sets very poor perimeters to how and when this should be called. You should not have to here how to call this from the internet. This fact alone is going to allow different interpretations to be used.

Peace

Contact is not necessary for a personal foul - and that is why hurdling (which by definition does not have to involve contact) is listed as one of the personal fouls (9-4-3d). Would you also not call these other personal fouls if there is no contact:
Throw a helmet to trip an opponent (9-4-3f)
Position himself on the shoulders of a teammate (9-4-3e)
Kick at or punch at an opponent without making contact (9-4-1)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by wisref2

Contact is not necessary for a personal foul - and that is why hurdling (which by definition does not have to involve contact) is listed as one of the personal fouls (9-4-3d). Would you also not call these other personal fouls if there is no contact:
Throw a helmet to trip an opponent (9-4-3f)
Position himself on the shoulders of a teammate (9-4-3e)
Kick at or punch at an opponent without making contact (9-4-1)

Point of attack is not necessary for a holding call, but we do use that philosophy to make that call (at least not officials that tend to be very good).

All rules have a philosophy. If you want to call this go right ahead. I would like some contact to call this. That is my philosophy and I am sticking to it.

BTW, you will not find point of attack anywhere in the rulebook as it relates to this call, but that is the philosophy that I hold and have held for years.

Peace