Kneel

[jontheref]

I split the difference between all of the comments previous to mine. I go to the line of scrimmage and tell the defense IF the qb takes a knee we aren't going to do anything stupid. They tend to understand what i am talking about. Then I tell the qb to get the snap and get down and I will be right behind him. I believe you have to say something to both sides because A the defense doesnt usually want to concede that they cant do anything...and B the likelihood of the QB actually knowing how to take a knee are usually remote.

The problem is that everyone sees the college guys and the pro guys take a snap and the qb stands there and then takes a knee and they figure we can do the same thing. Well guess what....they cant. Besides the liklihood of me running another play inside of 40 seconds is pretty remote particularly if I have a double digit lead.

[PSU213]

If a knee is probable (or A tells you they will take a knee) the R and U start the play tighter than they usually would. I NEVER tell them it will be a kneel down because of the instance in the OP. Telling them this is often construed as "don't play" or "don't try" on this play, meanwhile there could be a very good reason to try. That being said, need to "cool it" a bit, so if I'm inside I say "be smart." B is then reminded that we are there and watching, but we are not telling them what may (or may not) happen, and it can't come back on us if they did not try.

[JasonTX]

I don't say anything to either team. If the QB wants to take a knee then his linemen better block just as they would on any other play. There is nothing illegal about the defense going all out. I have had games where the defense busted through and stripped the ball before the QB could take a knee. Imagine if I would have told the defense to let up or something. This year I have been seeing a lot of teams take the snap from the shotgun and then take a knee.

[Texas Aggie]

I don't have a problem saying, "if he takes a knee, don't hit him afterwards."

[jjrye22]

Interesting differences here overseas.
We have youth and adult tackle programs and the men's teams can get VERY difficult sometimes. The concept of sportsmanship and fair play sometimes take a backseat to ramming people into the ground and soccer style hooliganism.
The philosophy in our area (and I believe in all of Germany) is that if A says they are going to take a knee, no one should move. If B attacks, they will be penalized and most probably ejected (with concequences).
We need to do this to keep cheap shots from happening out of frustration. I've never seen someone fumble the snap on a kneeldown, but I expect we would just call the play dead anyways.

It's not the way I would like to do it, but it seems to be necessary with some of our teams.

Actually that is why I got into officiating. To try to show the kids here a little of what I learned growning up - fair play, respect for others (and self), how to win and lose with dignity. They don't really get it though... At least not in the short term, maybe I have an impact farther down the road when they have grown up... Who knows.

James

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

I don't have a problem saying, "if he takes a knee, don't hit him afterwards."

This is similar to what I tell the players. I tell them that we're still playing football and remind them that if the ball carrier's knee is down the play is over.

[Theisey]

I go along with Rich and PSU. We don't say anything, we pinch in a little and as soon as the ball is possessed on the snap, we are hard and loud on the whistle.
If someone on the defense choses to be a jerk, he's getting a flag Period! I could care less if he happens to get ejected. The game is over as far as team-A is concerned. End it peacefully or pay the price in next weeks game.