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Old Thu Oct 19, 2006, 10:48am
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This crew needs to get back into the rule book?
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Old Thu Oct 19, 2006, 06:27pm
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See, I'm not totally convinced this is illegal. (Nor am I convince that it is legal.) The usual "wrong ball" or "where's the tee" play involves deception before the snap to make players think the snap is not imminent. On this play, we have actually had a legal snap. In the last discussion we had on this topic, it was (at least mostly) consensus that after the snap, deceptive calls by the offense were OK.

Personally, I think this sort of crap shouldn't be allowed. But, by rule, is it?
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Old Thu Oct 19, 2006, 11:13pm
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I'm thinking the "This is the wrong ball" when it's not the wrong ball gives us the out we need, whether or not it's after the snap.

If they run it by my crew in pregame, I'm going to chime in that we're not going to let them do it (of course, the final call is the white hat's, isn't it?).

God, I've had enough problems tonight, I don't need to see something like this with only two games left to work this season.
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Old Fri Oct 20, 2006, 11:40am
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What would be the rule refererence for making this illegal?
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Old Fri Oct 20, 2006, 12:14pm
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commisioner of that group stated

Forestville vs. Douglas in the paper the six official were wrong. Rule
9.9.3 page 78 case book At no time may a team use verbige to deceive.
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Old Fri Oct 20, 2006, 12:35pm
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9.9.3 page 78 case book At no time may a team use verbige to deceive.

Yeah, but that is not what it says. It finishes with the comment "a snap isn't imminent..." What we have in this play is a legal snap 2.39 and a live ball 2.1.2 and a defense who is asleep.
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Old Fri Oct 20, 2006, 12:59pm
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9-9-3 is the God rule. One example of it's usage is the "where's the tee" play. If you want to use it on this play then use it. Be ready to explain yourself. Hopefully your higher-ups will support your usage of it.
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