Unsportsmanlike (taunting) or not?

[sloth]

[QUOTE=MJT]

Originally Posted by parepat

Those are almost funny. All 4 officials who responded giving their opinion said to flag it.

Yes, excessive, just as HLin NC said. It does depend on how close the defender is, but you are asking for more trouble if you let it go unless you are pretty sure he did it cuz he thought he might be tackled. This is what causes the other team to retaliate and bad crap may start to happen.

The TD will still count, but the try will be 15 yards further back and the kid will know he should not be so self-centered next time.

BTW, how many times does a player, running at full speed near the goal line, get tackled from behind and not make it in the EZ. He is going to end up in the EZ anyway. The dive is fine if trying to beat a defender to the goal line, but not if you have them behind you and you are right at the goal line.

Along those same lines...if A-82 is going in for a TD on a long pass reception and holds the ball back to B45 who is in chase starting at the 5 yard line, do you flag and assess the penalty from the start of the taunting or do you toss the flag in the end zone and mark it off on the try?

My first impression is that you'd asses it from the 5, but that seems a bit excessive to wipe out a sure score for the sake of taunting.

Don't have the rule book handy and this just popped into my head as I read through this thread. Thoughts?

[whitehat52]

Sloth

It doesn't matter if you flag it on the five or in the endzone. The TD will still count. This is an usportsmanlike conduct penalty which will be enforced from the succeeding spot. The TD counts and enforce the penalty on the try. Also remember an UC can not combine to form a double foul or a multiple foul. All UC will be enforced at the succeeding spot.

[Opie]

I attended a college game Saturday night. A kid returned a punt for a touchdown. He was well ahead of K pursuing him and dived into the EZ, which drew a flag from the R. Then the kid proceeded to run past the opposing bench taunting them as he ran by, drawing a second USC flag.

Then I loved what the R said when he got on the mic " There are two dead-ball unsportsmanlike conduct fouls on number 21 of the return team. He has therefore disqualified himself from the game. The penalties will both be assessed on the kickoff."

After the successful try from the 3, they kicked off from their own 10 after the two USCs were marched off.

I'm a Fed guy and not real familiar with college rules so I'm not sure if this all was right, but I liked the R indicating that the player had disqualified himself and not that he was just ejected or we ejected him.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Opie

I attended a college game Saturday night. A kid returned a punt for a touchdown. He was well ahead of K pursuing him and dived into the EZ, which drew a flag from the R. Then the kid proceeded to run past the opposing bench taunting them as he ran by, drawing a second USC flag.

Then I loved what the R said when he got on the mic " There are two dead-ball unsportsmanlike conduct fouls on number 21 of the return team. He has therefore disqualified himself from the game. The penalties will both be assessed on the kickoff."

After the successful try from the 3, they kicked off from their own 10 after the two USCs were marched off.

I'm a Fed guy and not real familiar with college rules so I'm not sure if this all was right, but I liked the R indicating that the player had disqualified himself and not that he was just ejected or we ejected him.

2 USC = ejection in a FED game, too.

And he would've drawn them from me.

A dive like that into the end zone withnobody within 5 yards? Flag. Everytime.

[Bob M.]

REPLY: In the play you originally described (runner five yards ahead of the pursuing B players), I would flag it--no question. Clearly nothing more than an attempt to focus attention on himself.

[Theisey]

Sounds good to me Opie.
Had a JV (NCAA) intersquad game yesterday where a blocked TRY was returned 97 yards for an apparent score but the team-B player dove in from about the 3 yard line for his UC foul.

I'm sure his coach let him know later, but the poor guy didn't get credit for the score because one of his not so smart team-B players committed a block in the back about 10 yards behind him when he was around the 20. Dumbest time for block if I ever saw one. He had a clear lane for the score without the block.