You came all the way over here for that?

Texas Aggie · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 11, 2006, 08:24pm

Though I would have worded it differently, I have no problem with the response either. There are times when you MUST respond even if some would say that's throwing gas on the fire. It isn't like the fire is going to go out by itself without a response. I might have said something like, "coach, first, it was not a pass but a fumble, and second, I need you back on your sideline immediately." I don't believe the original comment was a bait, and this sure isn't a bait.

In responding in a factual manner gets you in trouble, then that's fine.

Forksref · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 11, 2006, 10:20pm

"Coach, the timeout is almost over. You need to get back to the sideline. Coach, that's enough." I am not against using the "Stop sign" like I use in basketball.

fattuna2 · #3 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 14, 2006, 07:57am

Nobody out there is stupid...presumably. We're all adults essentially donating our time and the coaches know it. If he wanted to discuss the call or *****, or cry he should have called a time out and addressed the referee. He'd have had 60 or so seconds to say what he wanted. I take my officiating as seriously as my job. I refuse to be talked down to by people who are no more important (In the grand scheme of life) than me. I wish I was better with my temper, but once again, the coach should be a professional also.

starman · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 21, 2006, 11:14pm

I know wasn't the point of thew post, but I have to ask..........
In the orginal play it was fourth down, I thought that you could not fumble the ball forward on fourth down. Shouldn't the ball have been spotted at the spot of the fumble?

Rich · #5 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 21, 2006, 11:19pm

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Originally Posted by starman

I know wasn't the point of thew post, but I have to ask..........
In the orginal play it was fourth down, I thought that you could not fumble the ball forward on fourth down. Shouldn't the ball have been spotted at the spot of the fumble?

NCAA rules, which are played in only 2 states at the HS level, yes. The other 48 states there is no such rule.

NickelDeuce · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 22, 2006, 08:13am

It's not just on 4th down. it's on any fumble that is forward and out of bounds. It's brought back to the spot of the fumble. If NFHS would adopt this rule, then we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

Bob M. · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 22, 2006, 09:13am

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Originally Posted by NickelDeuce

It's not just on 4th down. it's on any fumble that is forward and out of bounds. It's brought back to the spot of the fumble. If NFHS would adopt this rule, then we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

REPLY: But to clarify, ND is correct for NCAA fumbles that go forward and OOB. But for NCAA fumbles forward that remain (are recovered) inbounds, it's only on fourth down that they come back to the point of the fumble. For first, second, and third downs, fumbles that are recovered inbounds are treated identically to the way they are in NFHS.