Coaches Comment you will chuckle...

[Junker]

Originally Posted by rickref872

I am not flagging a coach for these actions. Chirping about this and that does not concern me. I would turn around and ask him if he has a question for me. If he does fine we will go from there. He can cuss and I will not pull trigger that fast. Waiting until RFP was blown in my opinion is cheap and not the best thing you can do here. Sorry IMHO you could have caused more issues than its worth for a 9th grade game.

I disagree. The coach wasn't asking questions, he was complaining. He was warned and kept going. If you warn a coach and don't follow through, that is when you end up with problems. Besides that, it's a 9th grade game, he should be coaching his players, not the officials.

[DJ_NV]

ljudge,

I agree completely, unless it gets out of hand. My point is that 1) unlike the inital post where the coach only thought he could get rung up for profanity, there's a couple more rules that can draw a flag, and 2) more importantly, it's just entertaining to read those rules. Few lines in the rulebook are a better example of the age-old discussion about the difference between "letter" and "spirit" of the rules. I guess I didn't note my sarcasm in text form.
One of the guidelines that we use in our association is when the coach starts using the word "you".
"That's a BS call!!" is different from "You are a terrible official." I'll let a coach have his brief two cents, however he loses a lot of latitude when he starts getting personal. Now it's certainly not because I have a thin skin..I've certainly been called worse. However, I do believe in upholding sportsmanship especially at the HS and NCAA level and I think that players need to see consequences when certain lines are crossed--and that's one of them.

Speaking of educating coachs, I was LJ on a Varsity game last Friday and I've got 1/10 at the B-26 going in. My sideline is on offense and during the play, the BJ and I have DPI down around the B-5, incomplete pass. So my sideline is happy with the call but then one of the assistant coaches yells to me, "Hey, you only marched off 13 yards! I thought it was a 15 yard penalty." He gave me a vacant look when I said we can only go 1/2 the distance. It was still deer in the headlights so I said that any 15 yard penalty inside the 30 (going in) will always be a 1/2 distance and not the full 15. Still nothing, so I gave up.

[RonRef]

Speaking of educating coachs, I was LJ on a Varsity game last Friday and I've got 1/10 at the B-26 going in. My sideline is on offense and during the play, the BJ and I have DPI down around the B-5, incomplete pass. So my sideline is happy with the call but then one of the assistant coaches yells to me, "Hey, you only marched off 13 yards! I thought it was a 15 yard penalty." He gave me a vacant look when I said we can only go 1/2 the distance. It was still deer in the headlights so I said that any 15 yard penalty inside the 30 (going in) will always be a 1/2 distance and not the full 15. Still nothing, so I gave up.[/QUOTE]

Why do we think that coaches even know any of the rules..they are clueless, it is our job to know and enforce the rules!

[Tom.OH]

JV game this morning, in our pregame with the visitors coach I asked him if all his players were legal. I had already noticed 3 clear mouthpieces. He said they were all legal, then we called out the 3 players we had seen. The coach had never heard of that rule. I told him it has been in since 2005 at least and I think 2004 letting coaches know it would be on the books in 2006. He said it was a dumb rule and whoever came up with it was an idiot. I told him all rules were made up by the coaches rule commitee. By the way, the other 40 players had yellow mouthpieces.

It was a good game, visitors kicked a 30 yard field goal as 4th period ended to tie the game. Head coaches were called to go over OT procedure. The visitors coach thought we would do a 5:00 minute overtime. I told him we started on the 20 yard line ( Ohio OT ) he looked suprised. Said if thats how we would do it that was ok with him. I told him it was the only way we would do it.

[kd0254]

Just to throw it out there. . . .

Last nights varsity game, fairly good game for our area, was clean all game, 7 penalties between both teams. 2nd quarter the home QB is scrambling back behind the play, the DE goes to tackle him, grabs and then lets go almost immeadiatly of the QB's facemask. QB goes OOB for a slight loss. End result is a 5 yard Facemask and redo second down, like 2nd and 9 after the penalty is enforced from the end of the run.

We are on the hash near the visitor's sideline just before I blew it RFP and the coach addresses me by my first name and says "come on Dale. . . .that wasn't much of a facemask". I usually never address comments like that but it had me almost laughing, I turned and said "I know, that's why it was 5 and not 15". Maybe its me but I found it hillarious that he was make a comment like that in a serious matter.

[SC Ump]

As ump in baseball I get an ear full. I like being ump in football. Sure I get run over by the big guys, but the coaches are out of mind.

Last Friday I called a hold on visitor's #67 in the mid-second quarter. The wing relayed at halftime that after telling the visiting coach which of his players committed the foul, the coach said, "Well it's about time. He's been holding all game."

[rickref872]

Originally Posted by Junker

I disagree. The coach wasn't asking questions, he was complaining. He was warned and kept going. If you warn a coach and don't follow through, that is when you end up with problems. Besides that, it's a 9th grade game, he should be coaching his players, not the officials.

So he was complaining. Why flag him for complaining? Coaches do this it is part of the game. As long as he is not busting out the personal insults etc why flag him. Yes if you are going to warn him you better trigger it. But I would not even have warned him that I would flag him. I would simply tell him that he has said his peace and we have heard him. 9 out 10 times this works. Waiting for RFP just to tack on 10 more yards is not professional. Tag him once and if he pipes up again tag him again if you are going that route.