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We had this happen the other night and I think I got it right as the R. A is at the line. QB says set and everyone except A2 goes from a two point stance to a three point stance. About a second after they shift and a half a second before the ball is snapped A2 goes down to his three point stance and his hand hits the ground right about the time the ball is snapped. I throw the flag and call an illegal shift. I'm about half convinced this is right. Is this the right call?
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You got it right.
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Illegal motion in NCAA rules. Shift requires 2 or more to move.
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If all 11 do not come set for 1 sec it is illegal shift.
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If all 11 do not stop for 1 sec it is illegal shift.
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All 11 did stop for the second the way I read his post. After that second, the RB started moving to a new position and is still moving when the ball is snapped. And now that I re-read the post...unless he was moving forward, his movement is not even illegal motion.
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Assuming they were all stopped for the second and then the RB started moving into a different stance with ball being snapped while he is putting that hand down, I have nothing.
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I was going to post exactly what Mike concluded with (NCAA), as I didn't see a foul if the player is in the backfield. HOWEVER, if he's on the line, isn't that false start, Mike?
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On the original play I have nothing- sounds legal. |
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Only one A player may be in motion at the snap and then only if such motion is not toward his opponent's goal line. Was his movement toward the opponent's goal line? Sounds like it. If he's facing the goal line and he goes from a 2 point stance to a 3 point stance, I have to believe he's moving forward. Illegal motion. |
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If a back, this guy's motion is legal. If a lineman, he can move late like this, as long as he is set for an additional second before the snap - so as described, illegal.
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Is that a Fed requirement, a single lineman moving has to be set for a full second before the snap? That is not true in NCAA.
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